Tyson Fury has quickly become the most overrated fighter in boxing.

[Ochoa780]

Exactly. Rating Fury highly doesn’t mean you have to see AJ as some sort of scrub. Fury can only be as highly rated as his era and division allows him to be, which turns out is pretty highly rated right NOW and for the right reasons. Fury is only rated based off merit. He’s not seen as number 1 because of “eye tests”. It’s because of who he beat. He’s at the top of the division and AJ is right there too.

Green k

Couldnt have said it better

[REDEEMER]

We can’t go on “ifs” and pretend scenarios. Wallin was mostly semi competitive for a couple rounds. If the fight didnt get stopped off that cut and Fury gave him a literal beating down the stretch and won a clear decision...then it was clearly the right call to allow it to continue. Obviously...





It’s cute you think the IBO belt counts over the WBC and Ring title. Bless your heart.

Whether you like it or not, Fury didn’t lose those belts to AJ. There are many who think Fury is the TRUE champion because he’s yet to lose a title in the ring.

I like both AJ and Fury but I’m not going to get my panties up in a bunch if someone thinks one is better than the other. AJ might have a better overall resume in some eyes in terms if contenders and what not, but he’s rocking a loss and his best win is outdone by Fury, who coincidentally has the second best win as well (Not named Klitschko) in Wilder. I wont argue if you think Ruiz’s win of AJ is the second best at HW but its kind of counter productive to go that route.

If you don’t think Fury is favored, cool. But you’re wrong. Whether or not AJ beats Fury is a different story than the overall narrative that Fury is deservedly seen as the betting favorite (however wide or slight it may be)

I picked Wallin to win on cuts over Fury in some threads ,so ? I think I do deserve whatever I want in a probabilistic reality ?

The truth is I’m the best prediction guy on here despite what some want to think ,I win for actual money ,I’m a grown man not a forum kid posting with an unpredictable life .

I know AJ is going to win a good 2 years without losing no matter the opponent.

[OnlytheTruth]

Read the post... first sentence I believe? It will answer your question. Contracts legally are binding, in the real world? they can be complicated. They are NEVER related to the actual boxing ability of a fighter hence are a "Different issue." Its not complicated my friend.

I will grant you one hypothetical point: If the fight between Fury and Vlad had been close it might have been nice to see the rematch in the future... But the fight was not close.

Your first sentence..."Fury had no reason to rematch Wlad, he made it look easy beating him."

You're right, it isn't complicated - he 100% was legally bound to fight Wlad again. It wasn't the contract that made it complicated. It was Fury's popping dirty and subsequent UKAD case, being classed as medically unfit because of an undisclosed 'illness', admitting to taking *******, hurting his ankle and then dropping the belts.

'A contract isn't related to the ability of a fighter' - what has that got to do with anything? A Ferrari's speed isn't related to the ability of the driver, its always there. But when you get into said Ferrari, you have no choice but to accept that the speed is there. It doesn't magically vanish unless you break the Ferrari.

Its not one rule for Fury and one rule for everyone else. Fury chose not to give Wlad his rematch clause because of all of the reasons above.

[billeau2]

Your first sentence..."Fury had no reason to rematch Wlad, he made it look easy beating him."

You're right, it isn't complicated - he 100% was legally bound to fight Wlad again. It wasn't the contract that made it complicated. It was Fury's popping dirty and subsequent UKAD case, being classed as medically unfit because of an undisclosed 'illness', admitting to taking *******, hurting his ankle and then dropping the belts.

'A contract isn't related to the ability of a fighter' - what has that got to do with anything? A Ferrari's speed isn't related to the ability of the driver, its always there. But when you get into said Ferrari, you have no choice but to accept that the speed is there. It doesn't magically vanish unless you break the Ferrari.

Its not one rule for Fury and one rule for everyone else. Fury chose not to give Wlad his rematch clause because of all of the reasons above.

Fighters break contracts every day. Do you know the specifics? Do I? Do I know why Golata sabatoged his fight with Bowe? I would say.....No. You are virtue signaling. We saw Fury deal with Klitsko easily... thats what we know, assuming boxing isnt fixed lol.

[BodyBagz]

Fury is good no doubt but his competition level is low.
3 good fights out of 30 and they sing his name to high heavens.

Fury is aight

[REDEEMER]

Fighters break contracts every day. Do you know the specifics? Do I? Do I know why Golata sabatoged his fight with Bowe? I would say.....No. You are virtue signaling. We saw Fury deal with Klitsko easily... thats what we know, assuming boxing isnt fixed lol.

Fury couldn’t dent Wlad, he had no answers for him other then play tag from long distance in a very safety fight because he could not overwhelm him ,it was a terrible fight and a rematch would absolutely tell who was actually better . Fury ran from that rematch and if you watched boxing long enough you know rematches almost always is won by the boxer / puncher .

Edit: I think Fury didn’t like his chances neither did Peter and warned his own nephew to be prepared because he wouldn’t win the rematch fighting the same way so that kills your view of a rematch was not necessary. Honestly writing Klitschko off is a real rookie move by someone who hasn’t watched boxing throughout the years .

[Laligalaliga]

Fighters break contracts every day. Do you know the specifics? Do I? Do I know why Golata sabatoged his fight with Bowe? I would say.....No. You are virtue signaling. We saw Fury deal with Klitsko easily... thats what we know, assuming boxing isnt fixed lol.

Winning the first fight could be a fluke. Rematch would have cleared every doubt but no, he ran like a puzzsy.
Won three belts on the back of one wlad off night.

[billeau2]

Fury couldn’t dent Wlad, he had no answers for him other then play tag from long distance in a very safety fight because he could not overwhelm him ,it was a terrible fight and a rematch would absolutely tell who was actually better . Fury ran from that rematch and if you watched boxing long enough you know rematches almost always is won by the boxer / puncher .

Edit: I think Fury didn’t like his chances neither did Peter and warned his own nephew to be prepared because he wouldn’t win the rematch fighting the same way so that kills your view of a rematch was not necessary. Honestly writing Klitschko off is a real rookie move by someone who hasn’t watched boxing throughout the years .

Your an idiot. Its been established... and this post is fodder for the mill. You don't know boxing if you think that was a game of tag, a bad match.

[billeau2]

Winning the first fight could be a fluke. Rematch would have cleared every doubt but no, he ran like a puzzsy.
Won three belts on the back of one wlad off night.

Oh please spare me, your sounding as clueless as Redeemer. Coulda shoulda Wouda three words that define ineptitude often enough. Your not an idiot like Redeemer... so lets agree to disagree on trying to determine flukes, and other such opinions and argue facts, what we know.

[Laligalaliga]

Oh please spare me, your sounding as clueless as Redeemer. Coulda shoulda Wouda three words that define ineptitude often enough. Your not an idiot like Redeemer... so lets agree to disagree on trying to determine flukes, and other such opinions and argue facts, what we know.

Smiles, you want to discredit my point but you brought nothing into the equation. Wlad had an off night, many will agree but fury running away from the rematch with flimsy excuses tells a lot.
Does it amaze you that till date fury still hasn't defended a single belt and he is parading himself as champ.