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  • Squared.Circle
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    #11
    Originally posted by Oldskoolg
    What has been the biggest fight in “American boxing” history? What separates “boxing history” from “American boxing history?” Is there such a thing? What has been the biggest fight in “Mexican boxing” history? Is there such a thing? “French boxing” history? “German boxing” history? “Japanese boxing” history?
    Strange strange mentality this island mentality is....someone tell the old country that the “empire” is long dead....
    Well done. You have won the award for the most R-tarded post of 2020.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Oshio
      Fury is overrated pure and simple! He will go down history as the only champ who never defended a belt.

      He's only fought Wlad and Wilder and never gave them a rematch or defended a belt. I don't rate such guys. I cannot think about Ali or any other ATG without defending a belt or rematching their greatest foes.
      He had two scheduled dates for a rematch with Klitschko (or was it one?), has fought and easily beat Wilder twice (everybody and their nan knows he won the first fight) and has had three dates scheduled for the third fight. Soooooo, yea.

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      • Oldskoolg
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        #13
        Originally posted by Squared.Circle
        Well done. You have won the award for the most R-tarded post of 2020.
        “Well erm....you’re dumb!” There you go, the response you deserve for such a stereotypical “social media” response. Hey I know, let’s go post in yahoo comments next! And then 4chan after that!

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          #14
          Originally posted by Oldskoolg
          “Well erm....you’re dumb!” There you go, the response you deserve for such a stereotypical “social media” response. Hey I know, let’s go post in yahoo comments next! And then 4chan after that!
          You're on a roll, kiddo!!! Second most R-tasted post of 2020!!!

          If the concept of "[country] boxing history" confuses you, then you should quit the internet, and maybe oxygen.

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          • Oldskoolg
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            #15
            Originally posted by Squared.Circle
            You're on a roll, kiddo!!! Second most R-tasted post of 2020!!!

            If the concept of "[country] boxing history" confuses you, then you should quit the internet, and maybe oxygen.
            Believe me, I can see what kind of poster you are already so I don’t see a long fruitful interaction with you so I’ll ask you merely to respond to the original line of questioning....and so we see this mindset on here with ANY other nation? Do we ever hear those labels used? Or is this reserved strictly for the unification of Scotland, Wales, and England?

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              #16
              Originally posted by Oldskoolg
              What has been the biggest fight in “American boxing” history? What separates “boxing history” from “American boxing history?” Is there such a thing? What has been the biggest fight in “Mexican boxing” history? Is there such a thing? “French boxing” history? “German boxing” history? “Japanese boxing” history?
              Strange strange mentality this island mentality is....someone tell the old country that the “empire” is long dead....
              Undoubtedly as an event it would be the biggest event for British Sport.

              So you could say British Sporting History if you like.

              The UK like a lot nations view a lot of sport as like a proxy war. An uncomfortable truth but there you go.

              Particularly football. War without the guns George Orwell called it.

              It is a bit of an Island mindset.

              But even Argentina viewed the 1986 world cup game against England as a sort of national victory and a restoration of national pride against a backdrop of being humiliated by the British during the falklands war.

              But largely the casual fan base in Britain is interested in how we compete internationally as a source of fascination.

              But in boxing the domestic dust-up is King. But to have it to be an undisputed champion of the world you can see why it appeals massively to the British sports fan.

              Of course it's weird. But there you go.

              Britain likes Big Winners or Brave Losers. And will take ownership of both here.
              Last edited by Sparked_26; 12-13-2020, 09:09 AM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Sparked_26
                Undoubtedly as an event it would be the biggest event for British Sport.

                So you good say British Sporting History if you like.

                The UK like a lot nations view a lot of sport as like a proxy war. An uncomfortable truth but there you go.

                Particularly football. War without the guns George Orwell called it.

                It is a bit of an Island mindset.

                But even Argentina viewed the 1986 world cup game against England as a sort of national victory and a restoration of national pride against a backdrop of being humiliated by the British during the falklands war.

                But largely the casual fan base in Britain is interested in how we compete internationally as a source of fascination.

                But in boxing the domestic dust-up is King. But to have it to be an undisputed champion of the world you can see why it appeals massively to the British sports fan.

                Of course it's weird. But there you go.

                Britian likes Big Winners or Brave Losers.
                The marvellous minds of de Grey, Cooper, Knox, and company of Bletchley Park themselves couldn’t have said it better. Well said sir well said. The longer I live away from Blighty the more I notice what makes it different from anywhere else.

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                • Oldskoolg
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Sparked_26
                  Undoubtedly as an event it would be the biggest event for British Sport.

                  So you could say British Sporting History if you like.

                  The UK like a lot nations view a lot of sport as like a proxy war. An uncomfortable truth but there you go.

                  Particularly football. War without the guns George Orwell called it.

                  It is a bit of an Island mindset.

                  But even Argentina viewed the 1986 world cup game against England as a sort of national victory and a restoration of national pride against a backdrop of being humiliated by the British during the falklands war.

                  But largely the casual fan base in Britain is interested in how we compete internationally as a source of fascination.

                  But in boxing the domestic dust-up is King. But to have it to be an undisputed champion of the world you can see why it appeals massively to the British sports fan.

                  Of course it's weird. But there you go.

                  Britain likes Big Winners or Brave Losers. And will take ownership of both here.
                  Oi, Sparked, where do you place Lewis vs Bruno? Turpin vs Robinson? Buchannon vs Duran? Lewis vs Holyfield I, II? Honeyghan vs Curry? Hatton vs Tszyu? Eubank vs Benn I, II? Benn vs McClellan?

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                    #19
                    It would be easily. Eubank/Benn 2 felt huge at the time but it was shown on free tv. This would fill out any stadium in the country and probably break 2 million PPV buys.


                    Originally posted by Oldskoolg
                    What has been the biggest fight in “American boxing” history? What separates “boxing history” from “American boxing history?” Is there such a thing? What has been the biggest fight in “Mexican boxing” history? Is there such a thing? “French boxing” history? “German boxing” history? “Japanese boxing” history?
                    Strange strange mentality this island mentality is....someone tell the old country that the “empire” is long dead....
                    Of course theres a Mexican/French/German/Japanese boxing history. Boxing is very regional for the most part. But if some French bloke says an upcoming fight will be the biggest in French boxing history, you arent gonna know about it unless you speak French and follow French sports media.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Oldskoolg
                      Oi, Sparked, where do you place Lewis vs Bruno? Turpin vs Robinson? Buchannon vs Duran? Lewis vs Holyfield I, II? Honeyghan vs Curry? Hatton vs Tszyu? Eubank vs Benn I, II? Benn vs McClellan?
                      A lot of those I've only watched clips off and I would only really be aware of boxing in the early 90s when it was still on terrestrial tele.

                      Benn/McClellan is one fight I remember watching (or maybe it is just the fall out since and I never saw it live) I do definitely remember, Eubank/Watson on tele too. It is mad to think how big boxing was then when I was 7/8. My family would actually watch it. I think everyone's family would. I remember Eubank/Watson and the image of that is my nan watching that s.hit that is weird. But then again all the kids were watching it too. I will have watched the Eubank/Benn rivalry too.

                      That era came when I was just a bit too young to really follow it and it was unfortunately punctuated by those terrible injuries to McClellan and Watson.

                      Then Boxing was hidden away on sky tv which we didnt have until I was about 14/15 and at that point there was Hattons WBU reign of terror and Calzaghe being great one night and then having horrible matches against Starie or whoever the next. Even Naz passed me by a bit but I remember watching him vs Kelly at a friends house.

                      Hatton's win felt massive at the time against Tszyu and it was.

                      I'm actually a fan of Calzaghe as far as I am of anyone. But I always feel like he could have done more and chased the big fights. Or even just done the basics and took that f.ucking title of Sven Ottke.

                      I've since seen Bruno/Lewis but I dont know what the build up to that was like. I'd imagine most wanted Bruno to win.

                      My memories of Lewis were going to my local snooker club that would screen the PPVs. Which was weird really to let a lot of kids in at 3 in the morning to watch the fights,lol. Holyfield II, Tyson and Vitali I remember.

                      I also remember Lewis getting wiped out by Rahman in South Africa. That was on bbc. On Monday at school we had an assembly about his loss basically, lol. Failure to prepare was to prepare for failure.

                      Tbf that headmaster faced a charge of embezzling school funds a few years later. So I'm not sure who he was to sh.it talk Lennox Lewis to a room full of kids.

                      So I dont feel qualified to rank things like that without living through them but yeah I do realise that probably until I entered my 30's the way I followed boxing was entirely British centric.

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