The Ring: Spence/Pacquiao could result in lineal welterweight champion being crowned

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  • F l i c k e r
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    #51
    Let's get this fight signed and sealed.

    That's a big turn of events. It's strap season. Spence has to go get that legacy started.

    At that point, Bud has to just take the 40 and try to shock the world.

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      #52
      If you dont fight Crawford you are lineal of nothing. You're either unified or you're not. Thats the only thing that matters in this era of 10+ champs per weight class

      Beating an old 42 year old holds little value to be honest

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        #53
        Originally posted by #1PaperChamp
        If you dont fight Crawford you are lineal of nothing. You're either unified or you're not. Thats the only thing that matters in this era of 10+ champs per weight class

        Beating an old 42 year old holds little value to be honest
        That's not how the lineal champion works.

        That's how the unified champion works.

        You can be unified and technically not lineal.

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          #54
          Originally posted by F l i c k e r
          That's not how the lineal champion works.

          That's how the unified champion works.

          You can be unified and technically not lineal.
          This is the correct answer.

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            #55
            Originally posted by F l i c k e r
            That's not how the lineal champion works.

            That's how the unified champion works.

            You can be unified and technically not lineal.
            And being lineal is literally just a meaningless made up title. A boxer could say theyre lineal or supreme or chosen or the best champion (see the oxymoron).

            Lineal is meaningless.

            Unified has actual meaning.

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              #56
              Originally posted by #1PaperChamp
              And being lineal is literally just a meaningless made up title. A boxer could say theyre lineal or supreme or chosen or the best champion (see the oxymoron).

              Lineal is meaningless.

              Unified has actual meaning.
              In a way, yes.

              Lineal is more like a boxing heritage thing.

              You're the guy who beat the guy; who beat the guy; so-on and so-forth.

              Like Fury. He had no belts but was lineal. He beat the guy who beat the guy. Now he is lineal and can unify the division by beating AJ.

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                #57
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                In a way, yes.

                Lineal is more like a boxing heritage thing.

                You're the guy who beat the guy; who beat the guy; so-on and so-forth.
                That's what it USED to mean. Back when there wasn't 26 "champs" in each weight class. Now being "lineal" means NOTHING.

                Crawford is #1 WW in the world.

                Boxingscene (this website) is OWNED by CBS who owns Showtime and they promote PBC fighters...so boxingscene will push an agenda of always rating PBC fighters high regardless of merit.

                Crawford is the best WW in the world and there's no dis*****g that. No, his resume is not the best but he's undefeated across 3 weight classes and was UNDISPUTED (something only 2 men have done in the past 10-15 years) and has been BEGGING for PBC fights...yet all those crybabies at PBC refuse to fight him.

                Let's not forget. PBC is NOT a PROMOTER. There is NO CONTRACT preventing ANY PBC fighter from fighting Crawford. NONE. They are collectively black-sheeping Crawford because - if ONE of them LOSES - they surrender their collective power. Straight cowardice.

                Crawford is #1 WW and #1 PFP today. Zero close fights and he's BEATEN everyone that's willing to fight him. EVERYONE. No close decisions, no favorable judging, and he has the highest KO % (100) at WW

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by #1PaperChamp

                  Crawford is #1 WW in the world in my opinion.

                  Crawford is the best WW in the world in my opinion.. No, his resume is not the best.

                  Crawford is #1 WW and #1 PFP today in my opinion. .
                  Edited for accuracy.

                  "At The End Of The Day", resume is what matters. In your current weight class.

                  Errol Spence is the true #1 because he holds wins over two Top 5 welterweights. In a row. And is unified champion.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    Edited for accuracy.

                    "At The End Of The Day", resume is what matters. In your current weight class.

                    Errol Spence is the true #1 because he holds wins over two Top 5 welterweights. In a row. And is unified champion.
                    Spot on here.

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                      #60
                      manny never beat the number one welterweight

                      floyd was on top after zab - spinks unified and floyd beat baldomir and zab.

                      then floyd retired and it went from cotto-mosley > cotto > Margo > mosley > mayweather.


                      Manny's wins over cotto, margo and mosley were all after their losses and he lost to floyd.

                      manny was kind of the default man to beat after floyd but i dont think beating bradley again made him lineal and it was for floyds old belt.

                      spence has racked up wins and manny has a long unbeatened streak but its really between spence, manny and crawford all need to fight each other to determine lineal.

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