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  • #41
    Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
    Yeah we get it you think Canelo lost to Trout, GGG x2, Lara, Cotto, Khan (If wasnt for LUCKY punch). Ohhh Cottos brother also.

    Did I miss any??? If that's how you felt then you Byrd'd the other way.

    Outside Floyd which Canelo lost like every round but one. I have no problem with the actual RESULTS.

    I had GGG 7-5 in first fight. I can easily see a draw so im not gonna stress on that.

    7-5 Canelo 2nd fight. Too little to late for ggg who came on strong. Just like Loma he gave to many of the early rounds away.

    Lara I felt could of had the fight but fought to scared and like it was the Olympics. I also score body punches and that was where Canelo put is work in.

    No Heart Trout! Got dropped, bloody mouth, and Bambi-legged a few times. New the score and did jack sht about it. Better to survive and complain latter. Then get dropped again.
    stop deflecting and stick to the topic. Look at the cards I mentioned with trout,Lara , cotto, Floyd and ggg and tell me those are reasonable scores. Regardless of who you think won.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
      2 bad scorecards? So outside of the 2 you mentioned, you think 10 rounds to 2 for canelo over trout was a good card? How about 9 rounds to 3 over Lara? Or 11 rounds to 1 over Cotto? You must be joking. How did Oscar treat canelo like a club fighter? He helped get him the richest guaranteed contract in sports at the time. Wasn’t his fault that the contract was a bad deal for dazn as canelo didn’t generate the amount of subscriptions to justify 35 plus mil per fight.
      The individual cards didnt effect the outcome whether they were 12-0 or 7-5.

      Trout was a good, close fight. Canelo scored the KD to edge it.

      Lara was an awful fight and most qualified observers (link i provided) had Canelo winning or a draw...small minority had Lara stealing it.

      Canelo beat Cotto anywhere from 9-3 to 7-5 depending on what you like.

      Canelo still gets the most buys - no question. GBP and DAZN are clueless at marketing. They couldnt give away food at a soup kitchen...if you think it was Canelo...which GBP/DAZN fighter has been well promoted. Name one lmfao

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      • #43
        Originally posted by #1PaperChamp View Post
        Ryan has a big frame and is at 135. He could be at 147 in a few years. Wouldnt surprise me at all. Especially with how weak WW is...Jaron Ennis (huge for WW) and Vergil Ortiz. By the time Ryan would arrive at WW there will be nothing left...could make it easier
        I'm sure Ryan can get to 147. Can he be successful there is the thing I got questions about. Hell we don't even know if he can be successful at all yet at the highest levels let alone in multiple divisions.

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        • #44
          Get off the gear mate

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
            I'm sure Ryan can get to 147. Can he be successful there is the thing I got questions about. Hell we don't even know if he can be successful at all yet at the highest levels let alone in multiple divisions.
            True. I think switching to training under Reynoso and with Canelo will do nothing but HELP. Canelo is far from the most complete fighter but he seems very, very dedicated

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            • #46
              Originally posted by #1PaperChamp View Post
              True. I think switching to training under Reynoso and with Canelo will do nothing but HELP. Canelo is far from the most complete fighter but he seems very, very dedicated
              No doubt at all from me the Reynoso's move was a positive one short & long term for Ryan. Whatever his chances at being the #1 guy in a division was pre-Reynoso's those odds got better after joining them.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by boxingitis View Post
                By stealing Oscars roster.

                Don King had power.
                who stole Oscars roster ? He was so busy fishnet dressing and smoking crack they he gave his roster away.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by #1PaperChamp View Post
                  The individual cards didnt effect the outcome whether they were 12-0 or 7-5.

                  Trout was a good, close fight. Canelo scored the KD to edge it.

                  Lara was an awful fight and most qualified observers (link i provided) had Canelo winning or a draw...small minority had Lara stealing it.

                  Canelo beat Cotto anywhere from 9-3 to 7-5 depending on what you like.

                  Canelo still gets the most buys - no question. GBP and DAZN are clueless at marketing. They couldnt give away food at a soup kitchen...if you think it was Canelo...which GBP/DAZN fighter has been well promoted. Name one lmfao
                  now you’re moving the goal post. The point wasn’t about whether you feel the results of these fights were accurate in your view. The point was that He consistently gets not just bad, but absurd scorecards in his favor from different judges in multiple fights. It happens too often to be coincidental And that was my original point.

                  Most felt his fights with trout and cotto were at least competitive and some judges in those 2 fights scored it a blowout. With Lara, some had both guys winning but 1 judge again saw a blowout somehow. And If you want to go by press row scores as you did for the Lara fight , an overwhelming majority had him losing both fights with ggg. Even the second fight that was closer, only 2 of 50 press row cards had him winning yet 2 of 3 official judges had him win winning and did so by giving him the 12th round which almost everyone else had him losing. Canelo gets the benefit of the doubt from judges more so than any boxer I’ve ever seen. Period.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                    I think it's shady as hell how DAZN wouldn't approve of Callum Smith as a premier opponent when he was with Golden Boy, but now that the Alvarez-GBP relationship has been severed Callum Smith is suddenly all good.

                    It feels like they screwed De La Hoya over much like Haymon and Schaefer did.

                    I'm pulling for Oscar to get back up and rebuild once again. So he can stick it to all the slimy f*cks who are trying to destroy him and what he has built.
                    It was the back deal secret contract that messed up the dazn/gb/canelo situation they was trying force third fight with triple bum or a crossover fight with YouTube people, now that canelo a free agent and can take his fan base to whoever wants to stage his fights dazn has no choice but to accept his opponents or risk losing those subscribers

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                    • #50
                      The ***er that screwed Alvarez relationship w/ Oscar was Eddie Hearn. He said it, it was weors that he is fighting the guy that the DAZN didn’t approved before? Maybe Alvarez goes by the fact, that now he doesn’t have to share his profit with a promoter? The fact os wheather we like Oscar or not, he did made Canelo in the states.

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