Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Confirms He Will Not Be Ringside For Joshua-Pulev

[KingGilgamesh]

You know that's complete lies right ... Wilder was an idiot for not attending the AJ fight they were offering to pay him to do that with his own guaranteed world press conference.

As for the ring he just wasn't guaranteed to get in the ring given he wouldn't agree to the fight beforehand .. show me any other fight where any fighter had a legally binding contract to get in the ring at another fighters show.

If I was a fighter and someone said I had to guarantee another unrelated fighter ring time at the end of my fight I'd tell them to ***** off too.

I think Hearn's dishonesty kinda passes off on his fanbase. This is just blatant dishonesty. I don't know why so many here seem committed to bull****ting on Joshua and Hearn's behalf.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/3...-180329277272/

Wilder was supposed to be ringside in Cardiff working for Sky Sports on Saturday night, but has changed his mind at the last minute after Joshua declared that HE will decide whether the American is allowed into the ring after the fight.

The 32-year-old claims Sky had agreed that he could climb into the squared circle and face off with Joshua if he beat Parker, yet AJ is stating this may not happen. He believes his presence ringside is merely a ploy from Eddie Hearn to build a bout with Dillian Whyte and so is now refusing to travel.

What a ridiculous load of petty nonsense.

Three of the four heavyweight belts are being contested on Saturday night, you hold the final piece of the puzzle, you’re invited to be ringside and have been handed an enormous platform on which to call out the winner, but aren’t coming because you might not be allowed into the ring?! Good grief.

Wilder’s position is partially understandable. He feels misled by the initial promise that he would definitely enter the ring and he feels Hearn will just try to push the Whyte fight on him. Probably true.

I don't get Hearn man, I don't hate the guy but I think all his shenanigans may start to catch up with him. He isn't trustworthy at all.

[vitali1999]

Why should he, Pulev is a never was. 10 years removed from his prime. Joke fight for Joshua.

[OnlytheTruth]

I think Hearn's dishonesty kinda passes off on his fanbase. This is just blatant dishonesty. I don't know why so many here seem committed to bull****ting on Joshua and Hearn's behalf.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/3...-180329277272/



I don't get Hearn man, I don't hate the guy but I think all his shenanigans may start to catch up with him. He isn't trustworthy at all.

I think you are generalising Hearn a bit too much here. A lot of the hate he gets is because the Joshua/Wilder situation where there were so many different stories and offers that Hearn got a lot of flack but have now been shown to be completed misdirected. Its Wilder, Finkel and Haymon who were lying - confirmed by Wilder himself.

He can be a bit slimy and too mouthy even for a Promoter but since he took control of Matchroom Boxing, the profile of boxing has gone up a lot.

[KingGilgamesh]

I think you are generalising Hearn a bit too much here. A lot of the hate he gets is because the Joshua/Wilder situation where there were so many different stories and offers that Hearn got a lot of flack but have now been shown to be completed misdirected. Its Wilder, Finkel and Haymon who were lying - confirmed by Wilder himself.

He can be a bit slimy and too mouthy even for a Promoter but since he took control of Matchroom Boxing, the profile of boxing has gone up a lot.

You're literally complaining that I am calling Hearn dishonest, whilst admitting Hearn is dishonest. Wilder told no lies, the deal made to him which he admitted to recently was made by DAZN and John Skipper. It would have (potentially) involved a fight with Joshua. Hearn was in no way involved in those negotiations. Wilder confirmed nothing.

This is all easily verifiable by Google too. Whats up with you people. Its like you have something against being honest or truthful. Wilder, Finkel and Haymon didn't lie about anything. Wilder would have been offered more money to fight Joshua, he was offered that by DAZN, NOT Hearn.

Jesus Christ.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-d...onesty--144424

In an interview last month with Lance Pugmire of The Athletic, DAZN executive chairman John Skipper commented on the Wilder negotiations, saying: “In retrospect, I was too brash going in there without creating the relationships I needed to create with the people who advised Deontay Wilder. I have now worked to do that. It has to do with going back to the education I needed before getting into boxing … When we left that (Wilder) meeting, I knew we messed up and that we weren’t going to be successful.

“We were impatient, and after having some early success, we wanted to move quickly. Now I understand that I’ve got to work relationships, work within a framework and understand other peoples’ self-interests and needs as well … If I had to do it again, I’d have gone in and said, ‘I’m playing the long game.’ I’m playing the long game with Canelo and GGG, too.”

In hindsight, Wilder said he’s glad he passed up on the DAZN deal, because Joshua ended losing to PBC stablemate Andy Ruiz in June, and thus creating havoc and uncertainty in the heavyweight picture.

“Look how god works. If I signed that deal, I would have still been sitting around, waiting for Anthony Joshua, and the fight would not be as big as it was before he lost. We would have lost value,” said Wilder.

[Toffee]

I think Hearn's dishonesty kinda passes off on his fanbase. This is just blatant dishonesty. I don't know why so many here seem committed to bull****ting on Joshua and Hearn's behalf.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/3...-180329277272/



I don't get Hearn man, I don't hate the guy but I think all his shenanigans may start to catch up with him. He isn't trustworthy at all.

I get him. Why would he let Wilder sell himself on a Matchroom show?

Different story if he was close to agreeing the fight, but I think we all now understand that he wasn't.

I'm assuming negotiations are advanced if Fury was invited (if it was genuine, which Fury hasn't denied). I'm also assuming it's not yet a done deal given he's not attending.

They don't get in the ring to make the fight. They get in the ring because the fight is made.

[DougalDylan]

I don't even know what dishonesty you're talking about. He was invited and offered money to go to the Cardiff fight ...

Adam Smith said, Joshua said it, Hearn said and I haven't heard Wilder or his team deny it, just the cult of PBC please include link.

There was some noise about not being guaranteed to get in the ring but that's a different issue.

The PBC cultists just spread bull***** about the rest I believe that the last lies they spread was AJ had a restraining order out on Wilder .. that's a legal document A) no court would issue it B) its a matter of record which Wilder could request publish and prove all his haters round the world wrong ....... why doesn't he do that because A) he didn't say there was one his deluded fans did B) it doesn't exist

Wilder fans are brain dead and he's his own worst enemy so many opportunities against so many fighters he squandered.

I think Hearn's dishonesty kinda passes off on his fanbase. This is just blatant dishonesty. I don't know why so many here seem committed to bull****ting on Joshua and Hearn's behalf.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/3...-180329277272/



I don't get Hearn man, I don't hate the guy but I think all his shenanigans may start to catch up with him. He isn't trustworthy at all.

[OnlytheTruth]

You're literally complaining that I am calling Hearn dishonest, whilst admitting Hearn is dishonest. Wilder told no lies, the deal made to him which he admitted to recently was made by DAZN and John Skipper. It would have (potentially) involved a fight with Joshua. Hearn was in no way involved in those negotiations. Wilder confirmed nothing.

This is all easily verifiable by Google too. Whats up with you people. Its like you have something against being honest or truthful. Wilder, Finkel and Haymon didn't lie about anything. Wilder would have been offered more money to fight Joshua, he was offered that by DAZN, NOT Hearn.

Jesus Christ.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-d...onesty--144424

I think wee are both just choosing our words poorly. Slimy was probably the wrong way to describe Hearn.

What I mean to say is that Hearn may not be an angel but he now has a lot of hate directed towards him for the Wilder/Joshua potential fight because haters thought Joshua was ducking Wilder - when we now know it was the other way round.

But, the DAZN deal!? I mean, come on, if you think Hearn wasn't involved when its his fighter and Matchroom & DAZN are partnered in a BILLION deal, you are probably mistaken and sourcing Wilders and Skippers interview was a poor angle to take.

Bottom line; promoters aren't always sincere but Hearn gets the lions share of the flack and its probably misdirected.

[DaNeutral.]

Why should he, Pulev is a never was. 10 years removed from his prime. Joke fight for Joshua.

Its a mandatory obligation.

[KingGilgamesh]

I think wee are both just choosing our words poorly. Slimy was probably the wrong way to describe Hearn.

What I mean to say is that Hearn may not be an angel but he now has a lot of hate directed towards him for the Wilder/Joshua potential fight because haters thought Joshua was ducking Wilder - when we now know it was the other way round.

But, the DAZN deal!? I mean, come on, if you think Hearn wasn't involved when its his fighter and Matchroom & DAZN are partnered in a BILLION deal, you are probably mistaken and sourcing Wilders and Skippers interview was a poor angle to take.

Bottom line; promoters aren't always sincere but Hearn gets the lions share of the flack and its probably misdirected.

Well...its not misdirected. Hearn gets hate because he's insincere. No part of that is unearned. He gets shat on because he routinely speaks out of both sides of his mouth. Matchroom and DAZN aren't "partnered", thats not how boxing works. Hearn (Matchroom) is a promoter and Skipper (DAZN) are a network. A deal is a deal, not a "partnership". Same way Eddie isn't "partnered" with Sky, there is a deal/contract which allows them to stage Matchroom fights until 2021. US law dictates that they CANNOT act as one entity as that would be in breach of the Ali Act. Same way you don't see ESPN/Fox acting in unison with either Top Rank or PBC. DAZN attempted to draw Wilder in with a multi fight network deal which would have included a fight with Joshua but could not guarantee Joshua because of, as stated, the Ali Act. He would have basically been locked in with a deal with no promise of a shot against the very guy whose the reason he's even on the table.

[KingGilgamesh]

I don't even know what dishonesty you're talking about. He was invited and offered money to go to the Cardiff fight ...

Adam Smith said, Joshua said it, Hearn said and I haven't heard Wilder or his team deny it, just the cult of PBC please include link.

There was some noise about not being guaranteed to get in the ring but that's a different issue.

The PBC cultists just spread bull***** about the rest I believe that the last lies they spread was AJ had a restraining order out on Wilder .. that's a legal document A) no court would issue it B) its a matter of record which Wilder could request publish and prove all his haters round the world wrong ....... why doesn't he do that because A) he didn't say there was one his deluded fans did B) it doesn't exist

Wilder fans are brain dead and he's his own worst enemy so many opportunities against so many fighters he squandered.

The **** does this have to do with what I said. I literally gave you a TalkSport article and you've gone off on a tangent about PBC cultists and Adam Smith. You sound like a mug. I dont care for some idiots claiming there is a "restraining order", a lot of you are as dumb as each other. Facts are written in the article. Wilder was due to come down for commentary, Eddie said he couldn't get in the ring, Wilder passed on the opportunity thinking that he was being used as a promotional tool for a potential Whyte fight.