Comments Thread For: Joshua: I'll Fight Wilder When He's Man Enough Not To Lie

[Get em up]

I'll just be honest I dont care who did what I just want AJ and Fury to fight and AJ and Wilder to fight plain and simple. All this babble mouthed big talk is pointless. Let your hands do the talking.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Hmm.


I still would rather see Joshua/Wilder before Fury/Joshua.

And the "WE NEED UNIFICATIONS!!!!" crowd will come running. Here's the thing.

Joshua/Wilder is an intriguing fight because

- Both guys lost ONCE
- Both guys are essentially in rebuild mode
- We still don't know who's better between them
- If Wilder managed to spark Joshua cold it builds up Wilder/Fury 3 PROPERLY into a fight worth having
- If Joshua sparked Wilder then Wilder can go away and stop screaming for a Fury rematch as there'd definitely be no point AND Fury/Joshua gets that much bigger

It would let us shut up whichever loser once and for all and move on with the division instead of the current triad of limbo we have.

[Claude Palle]

that came after several other floated offers of flat fees....and that offer wasnt made by hearn it was made by john skipper...hearn floated flat fees and lowball numbers for awhile...thats just reality

and the reality is that AJ still would have fought ruiz and had to rematch so they still wouldnt have fought

go look at forbes listed earnings for wilder the last two years....hes at around 70 mil for the last two years alone....

that 100 mil figure doesnt happen without an AJ fight which wilder still wouldnt have had...and wilder wouldnt have been able to fight fury again which is where he made a bunch of money

you guys are still do delusional to the reality of it all

Finally, a man with some sense. That "mega offer" was made through the media and disputed. Apparently Wilder and Shelly Finkel offered A.J a 50 million one off deal that was quickly dismissed. The offer to Wilder was contingent on Joshua beating "big baby" anyway which instead turned out to be a thrashing by doughboy Ruiz. Talking through the media is just that, talk. Did the offers by both camps have strings attached? Who knows. Both offers were probably just bluster anyway. If they wanted to fight each other they would have. Just like Spence and Crawford. Let's see what happens with that situation!

[thack]

If little fat Ruiz can destroy Joshua as he did then Wilder would obliterate him maybe that's the reason Hearn sr. said 'if we don't fight Wilder for the next ten years but Joshua keeps on wining then I'll take that' .Joshua rightfully so has (apart from Ruiz!) been well matched ....learning on the job he calls it ..! Joshua would only fight Wilder for 85% of the pot as Hearn requested and even though 15% was more than he did get for Fury he knew they were taking the piss and refused.

[hugh grant]

Hopefully they'll fight oneday. Hopefully wilder not finished

[BangEM]

Hmm.


I still would rather see Joshua/Wilder before Fury/Joshua.

And the "WE NEED UNIFICATIONS!!!!" crowd will come running. Here's the thing.

Joshua/Wilder is an intriguing fight because

- Both guys lost ONCE
- Both guys are essentially in rebuild mode
- We still don't know who's better between them
- If Wilder managed to spark Joshua cold it builds up Wilder/Fury 3 PROPERLY into a fight worth having
- If Joshua sparked Wilder then Wilder can go away and stop screaming for a Fury rematch as there'd definitely be no point AND Fury/Joshua gets that much bigger

It would let us shut up whichever loser once and for all and move on with the division instead of the current triad of limbo we have.

I will to see Wilder vs Wlad and Wilder vs Povetkin first (and even Wilder vs Whyte) before he gets a big payday against Josh.

You can’t spend your whole career fighting bums and become entitled to big money. He has to earn it.

Get Shirley Wrinkle to get Wlad out of retirement and setup the fight. Then fight Povetkin and Whyte. If he can pull it off - he has earned the payday.

[Curt Henning]

Finally, a man with some sense. That "mega offer" was made through the media and disputed. Apparently Wilder and Shelly Finkel offered A.J a 50 million one off deal that was quickly dismissed. The offer to Wilder was contingent on Joshua beating "big baby" anyway which instead turned out to be a thrashing by doughboy Ruiz. Talking through the media is just that, talk. Did the offers by both camps have strings attached? Who knows. Both offers were probably just bluster anyway. If they wanted to fight each other they would have. Just like Spence and Crawford. Let's see what happens with that situation!

spence and bud will fight, provided both guys win in the interim, when it benefits them both...spence hasnt needed bud...and spence may have another fight or two where he doesnt need him...eventually he will though....its what happens

just happens that spences side has a stacked supply of named/good fights for him so bud isnt really needed...you saw fury and wilder come together when they needed each other and it was apparenty hearn wanted no part of wilder for AJ...

bud/spence, provided both stay unbeaten, will def happen....theres too much money for it not to...even if bud stays with TR hell eventually realize that bud has the belts and a bunch of successful ppvs under his belt and accept less than 50 if he has to....

[El_Mero]

that came after several other floated offers of flat fees....and that offer wasnt made by hearn it was made by john skipper...hearn floated flat fees and lowball numbers for awhile...thats just reality

and the reality is that AJ still would have fought ruiz and had to rematch so they still wouldnt have fought

go look at forbes listed earnings for wilder the last two years....hes at around 70 mil for the last two years alone....

that 100 mil figure doesnt happen without an AJ fight which wilder still wouldnt have had...and wilder wouldnt have been able to fight fury again which is where he made a bunch of money

you guys are still do delusional to the reality of it all

Only one who is delusional is the one, TIL THIS DAY, still defending him by respondin to my post! Im not even an AJ fan and think Wilder probably wouldve khtfo. Wilder admitted he was offered more to fight AJ already. So regardless of what you think, thats all that matters.

[luvgun]

Wilder Vs AJ is a great match up

Wilder Vs AJ is a great matchup for 2021. Two years too late but it will be better than Fury versus both of these fighters. The winner gets the fight with Fury.

The way I see it Wilder threw a bone to Fury when he was mentally down and now he and Arum have turned their backs on Wilder.

[Curt Henning]

Only one who is delusional is the one, TIL THIS DAY, still defending him by respondin to my post! Im not even an AJ fan and think Wilder probably wouldve khtfo. Wilder admitted he was offered more to fight AJ already. So regardless of what you think, thats all that matters.

because what wilder said didnt mean anything...he said he was offered money....he didnt say it was fair market value for a fight with AJ or any of that...

go back and look..all the times hearn came out and said "flat fee" this or made excuses...even the time finkel and company came up with the 50 mil for AJ that AJ said he wanted and then hearn said he wasnt sure it was real then confirmed it was and AJ said "i wont sell my soul for 50 mil"...take a look back when lennox, fury, froch and khan all said AJ was the one avoiding the wilder fight...its all there and happened

it got so bad with hearn that john skipper had to sit down with wilder, without hearn, to try to get a deal done...because hearn had been jerking wilders team around for awhile

wilder making a comment is being taken out of context and spun....thats what hearn does...AJ trying to save face because he ducked a guy that fury beat up and stopped...i dont even care to bash AJ but that guy knocked by a guy much less than fury and then spent the rematch running around a large ring he requested to fun from a 6ft tub of lard with t rex arms...