Comments Thread For: Back From The Abyss, Gilberto Ramirez is Going Big at 175

[Silver Spear]

That's very true, but that's counter-balanced by the fact that many of these guys who come up through Mexico turn pro at 15-16 and are often fighting grown men twice their age early in their career. My second favorite fighter of all time, Salvador Sanchez, had only one loss, and it was very early in his career when he was very young. His breakthrough started with the first Little Red Lopez fight. From there, he fought top contenders to his belt (Patrick Ford, Pat Cowdell, Roberto Castanon, Ruben Castillo) and HOF fighters (Bazooka Gomez, Azumah Nelson, Little Red rematch). In my humble opinion, Ruben Castillo should be in the HOF. Castillo was something like 45-1 when he lost to Sanchez by close decision, and was outboxing Arguello when he got stopped late. If Castillo was in the HOF like he belongs, that would make four HOF fighters Sanchez beat by age 23. That makes careers like Zurdo's, Russell Jr.'s and Andrade's look sad.

I have seen some of sanchez's fights and I hope to get to see more of them. I agree that those 3 fighters you named have not had the career they potentially could have. Not sure what holds them back.

[BlackR0bbb]

I have seen some of sanchez's fights and I hope to get to see more of them. I agree that those 3 fighters you named have not had the career they potentially could have. Not sure what holds them back.

Go watch some Sanchez fights. You will enjoy them. I was in high school and always made sure my homework was done early so that I could watch boxing on Saturday afternoons, especially any fights involving Sanchez, Gomez, Rocky Lockridge or Hector Camacho. Also, do your research on Ruben Castillo and tell me if he belongs in the HOF or not. If guys like Gatti are in the HOF, Castillo and Marlon Starling certainly belong because they were much better fighters than Gatti.

[Silver Spear]

Go watch some Sanchez fights. You will enjoy them. I was in high school and always made sure my homework was done early so that I could watch boxing on Saturday afternoons, especially any fights involving Sanchez, Gomez, Rocky Lockridge or Hector Camacho. Also, do your research on Ruben Castillo and tell me if he belongs in the HOF or not. If guys like Gatti are in the HOF, Castillo and Marlon Starling certainly belong because they were much better fighters than Gatti.

The sad part is that the best do not always get into the HOF. Some got in there because of stardom and popularity. A lot of great fighters never make it to the top either because of this.

[BlackR0bbb]

The sad part is that the best do not always get into the HOF. Some got in there because of stardom and popularity. A lot of great fighters never make it to the top either because of this.

True. I go through the list of fighters in the HOF and see five or six who do not belong.