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  • #31
    Originally posted by 57Blues View Post
    I was interested until I saw the 25 bucks to watch it. Honestly work a deal somehow get shown somewhere somehow if you want to be a name forget the money and this is money driven. I dont dislike the guy I would like to see him roll off 2-3 fights a year with good competition but that is true of how I feel of most fighters who have some talent. It is this push for a $ 25 fee. I dont see that going anywhere in helping himself. His name will not show any brighter like that. Make the noise in the ring and be accessable as a fighter that means stay away from fee's for fights. Everybody wants to take from boxing anymore. he is going to go off the radar playing his hand like this for the dollars. Hope he proves me wrong. See you on YouTube man.
    Blues
    Feel the same way about him and the ppv but honestly since hes just starting out on his own,promotional wise,I believe it's the only way he can cover the cost of the card. Just hope we"ll finally see what hes capable of against the elite.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by BlackR0bbb View Post
      Promoter??? But Bob said he loves promoting Mexican fighters as opposed to black fighters. I don't know if it's the promoter in this case. Zurdo's career trajectory reminds me a lot of Andrade and Gary Russell Jr.
      What do you mean exactly? This could all be Zurdo's fault for all I know. I just think that the job of a promoter is to make their client a star and if Zurdo is not one having so many fights then I tend to look to blame the promoter. Unless he is Rigondeaux who is just impossible to promote.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Silver Spear View Post
        What do you mean exactly? This could all be Zurdo's fault for all I know. I just think that the job of a promoter is to make their client a star and if Zurdo is not one having so many fights then I tend to look to blame the promoter. Unless he is Rigondeaux who is just impossible to promote.
        Zurdo was Beterbiev's mandatory. Shouldn't have have demanded a Bivol or Beterbiev fight by now? He's been at light heavy for more than a year. Bob didn't block those fights for Zurdo. I say this because he didn't block Beterbiev vs. Gvozdyk.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BlackR0bbb View Post
          Zurdo was Beterbiev's mandatory. Shouldn't have have demanded a Bivol or Beterbiev fight by now? He's been at light heavy for more than a year. Bob didn't block those fights for Zurdo. I say this because he didn't block Beterbiev vs. Gvozdyk.
          Zurdo fought once at LHW and that was over a year and a half ago. Zurdo has been having promotional issues and has been inactive since his first fight at LHW. He is not even ranked by any major organization right now because of his inactivity. If he comes back and starts doing well then we can talk but he needs to make a name for himself.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
            Dude just needs to sell that 0 to Bivol. Don't care about his career.
            You are just a scared racist
            A few more fights and he's better than Mayweather.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Silver Spear View Post
              Zurdo fought once at LHW and that was over a year and a half ago. Zurdo has been having promotional issues and has been inactive since his first fight at LHW. He is not even ranked by any major organization right now because of his inactivity. If he comes back and starts doing well then we can talk but he needs to make a name for himself.
              He left TR a few months ago. Because he was WBO champ at 168, I believe he is automatically entitled to a title fight with the WBO at light heavy once he moved up. Also, he's been Beterbiev's WBC mandatory for over a year. He never pushed for that fight.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BlackR0bbb View Post
                He left TR a few months ago. Because he was WBO champ at 168, I believe he is automatically entitled to a title fight with the WBO at light heavy once he moved up. Also, he's been Beterbiev's WBC mandatory for over a year. He never pushed for that fight.
                He has been inactive for almost 2 years now. He was mandatory at one point but as you mentioned that he only just now left TR. What if TR was the one holding him back from taking those fights? Maybe Zurdo did not want them, who knows? He is still fairly young and only time will tell what his careers ends up as.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Silver Spear View Post
                  He has been inactive for almost 2 years now. He was mandatory at one point but as you mentioned that he only just now left TR. What if TR was the one holding him back from taking those fights? Maybe Zurdo did not want them, who knows? He is still fairly young and only time will tell what his careers ends up as.
                  I'm just saying that 40-0 is too good of a record to be still fighting Jesse Hart level guys.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BlackR0bbb View Post
                    I'm just saying that 40-0 is too good of a record to be still fighting Jesse Hart level guys.
                    True but if you know anything about Mexican boxers you know that half of their record is usually padded with fights against old or underachieving opposition.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Silver Spear View Post
                      True but if you know anything about Mexican boxers you know that half of their record is usually padded with fights against old or underachieving opposition.
                      That's very true, but that's counter-balanced by the fact that many of these guys who come up through Mexico turn pro at 15-16 and are often fighting grown men twice their age early in their career. My second favorite fighter of all time, Salvador Sanchez, had only one loss, and it was very early in his career when he was very young. His breakthrough started with the first Little Red Lopez fight. From there, he fought top contenders to his belt (Patrick Ford, Pat Cowdell, Roberto Castanon, Ruben Castillo) and HOF fighters (Bazooka Gomez, Azumah Nelson, Little Red rematch). In my humble opinion, Ruben Castillo should be in the HOF. Castillo was something like 45-1 when he lost to Sanchez by close decision, and was outboxing Arguello when he got stopped late. If Castillo was in the HOF like he belongs, that would make four HOF fighters Sanchez beat by age 23. That makes careers like Zurdo's, Russell Jr.'s and Andrade's look sad.

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