Comments Thread For: Arum: Wilder Has No Rights To Third Fury Fight, Claim Will Be Denied

[sicko]

Aye he may not be as equally skilled but his "strategy" he pointed out years ago was what worked against Wilder and he may not have the footwork/movement as you pointed out but he'll bulldoze his way in and manhandle Wilder, Wilder often isn't busy enough to deter guys hence him getting out "boxed" for long stretches of his fights and either way it's not about if they can or not it's the possibility they can which is probably why he won't fight anyone other then Fury or some gimme fight like Helenius.

Whyte Aint Fury! Doesn't have his size, Chin, Speed, Quickness, Head Movement, Footwork or any of that. Whyte is a much easier target than Fury is so Whyte might try to come in to Manhandle Wilder on the inside and get his head knocked clean off

So yeah I'm not buying that all of a sudden because Fury beat Wilder that now EVERYBODY beats Wilder that is just not how boxing works Sorry

Ali Beat Foreman, Foreman Beat Frazier, Frazier Beat Ali...this is why they ALL need to fight I don't give sh^t about who lost to who already. I want to see Wilder vs Whyte, Fury vs AJ, Fury Vs Whyte, AJ vs Wilder, Usyk vs AJ, Usyk vs Fury, Usyk vs Wilder eventually Hrgrovic and whoever else is coming up to eventually fight these guys...lets see them ALL!

As for Wilder Willingness to fight...well he doesn't have a choice now especially if he doesn't get that rematch with Fury!

[Nuttybloke]

Tell me how anyone could even think of Mike Tyson as a former great fighter, let alone the best?

When a boxer has ducked other boxers, nobody in their right mind could even think of that fighter as a great? How can you rate a boxer as a great when that boxer avoided the two best boxers of his era?

The 4 best boxers that Mike Tyson faced in the ring were 1. Larry Holmes. 2. Lennox Lewis. 3 Michael Spinks 4. Evander Holyfield.

1. Larry Holmes, who is one of the greatest top 10 heavyweights in history. But he faced Mike when he was long past his best and was in rapid decline. So we can't be honest and class him as the fighter he once was. The Holmes Tyson beat was not that Holmes or even close to that Holmes.

2. Lennox Lewis, who is one of the greatest top 10 heavyweights in history. After Mike had ducked Lewis for years he eventually faced him. And Tyson got beaten up.

3 Michael Spinks, who wasn't really a Heavyweight but a great light Heavyweight, he was also well past his best. So again we can't be honest and class him as the fighter he once was as that was his last fight.

4. Evander Holyfield, Holyfield is the first boxer in history to win a version of the heavyweight title four times. He was an undefeated Cruiserweight champion. Winning the title in only his 12th Pro fight making him one of boxing's finest boxers.

Holyfield fought them all, beat most, and did so much in the sport of boxing, he's an icon, a legend, a true boxing superstar. Who beat your goat twice.

And that's it?. So he beat two ageing past it former great boxers in decline. And he lost against the other two boxers that were great boxers.

This bull**** we read from so many American people is actually insulting and really only shows them all up as casuals that do not understand boxing, or even what it is they've been watching, or what level of boxing they've been watching.

Lennox Lewis is one of the very best most of us have seen in most of our lifetime's. I mean the difference between Lewis and Tyson in skill levels, in their boxing ability?, are massive? Lewis was so much better at every level of boxing. So much so, it's not even something that needs debating, it's just a fact.

[Nuttybloke]

And all the Americans who don't ******ly try to make Tyson the fighter he wasn't? Well they'll all claim Ali as the best? Again BULL****!

Just take Robert James “Bob” Fitzsimmons (26 May 1863 – 22 October 1917) who was a British professional boxer who was the sport's first three-division world champion.

He also achieved fame for beating Gentleman Jim Corbett (the man who beat the man, John L. Sullivan), and he's in the Guinness Book of Records as the lightest heavyweight champion of all time, Incredibly he won the Heavyweight championship of the world at only 11 stone 7 lbs.

That feat and still standing world record alone, must see him right up as one of the best 5 of all time, as nobody has ever got close to doing what he did at such a light weight in the Heavyweight division, in over 100 years!

But you'll not see anyone know this, or if they do, they ignore it, because he's not American?. That's also why so much boxing history is actually rubbish. The USA's cheating and lying, trying to create a fake history of boxing with outright lies. And many lies they'd have got away with, if others hadn't spoken up. Ring Magazine itself was found guilty of doing exactly that.

If you want to understand the length of deceit the USA will go to, to lie about historical events, this will show you what I mean...

Although Bob Fitzsimmons became a world champion in each of the Middleweight, Light-Heavyweight and Heavyweight divisions. American boxing historians do not consider him to be the first world Light-Heavyweight and Heavyweight champion. Why?

LOL @ This, “because he won the Heavyweight title before winning the Light Heavyweight title!” Haha, how pathetically sad is that? Could anybody be any more bias and pathetic? How embarrassing the American people really are man, they're famous as the global bull****ters of all time. It's never ending bull****, and it really is the same in everything you can think of, even their disgusting outright lies about WW2. It's all just lie after lie.

Well, Michael Spinks counts as the first to win the Light-Heavyweight belt and the Heavyweight belt LOL Well there's a surprise?. Because Spinks did it in (the correct order) LMFAO, that must mean Bob Fitzsimmons just doesn't count then? Hilarious, yet so incredibly and embarrassingly pathetic.

In 2003, Roy Jones Jr. joined Bob Fitzsimmons, Michael Moorer and Michael Spinks as the only men to have won world championships at both Light-Heavyweight and Heavyweight. But Michael Spinks counts as the man who did it first, even though he didn't because? Oh, just because the USA said so! LOL

Being honest and actually only going on what we do know and did see my top 10 Heavyweights of all time are...

1) Joe Louis.
2) Jack Dempsey.
3) Rocky Marciano.
4) Robert James “Bob” Fitzsimmons (explained above)
5) Muhammad Ali.
6) Larry Holmes
7) James J. Jeffries
8) Lennox Lewis
9) George Foreman
10) Jack Johnson.

Not Ali! Henry Cooper fought Cassius Clay in 1963 at Wembley Stadium. The fight was a scrappy affair, and a key moment came at the end of the fourth round. Cooper landed a left hook that sent Clay sprawling through the ropes.

Angelo Dundee helped Clay to his stool and revived him with smelling salts, something that was a violation of rules at that time. Dundee also forced a delay to repair a tear in Clay's glove, a tear some suspect Dundee created to stall for time.

A rejuvenated Clay came out for the fifth round and opened up a cut on Cooper's eye. Clay relentlessly attacked Coppers cut eye to force a stoppage on cuts, Cooper was ahead on the scorecards.

Clay, now known as Muhammad Ali, faced Cooper again in 1966 while defending his World Heavyweight Title. Clay adopted a more cautious approach only Cooper again suffered a stoppage defeat on cuts, despite AGAIN being ahead on the scorecards.

It was only cuts that prevented Cooper from beating Ali twice. But you'll never hear about this, or if you do, it will be a bull**** version some American dreamt up in his own head, LOL.

Cooper won the respect of Ali, who called him to reminisce on the 40th anniversary of the first fight. Ali once remarked on the first fight by saying Cooper had hit him “so hard my ancestors in Africa felt it.”

Ali was not the greatest at all. The facts are all there to see, read, and learn, so there is no excuse that we see anyone lie about it.

Ali won 56 out of his 61 fights, and 37 of them were knock-outs. While these are great stats, other boxers had better: Harry Greb won 262 fights!, Sugar Ray Robinson won 173, and Harry Armstrong won 150. Rocky Marciano didn’t lose a fight.

The scope of the fights makes a huge difference, since every fight is injurious (risky). A closer look at the boxing stats of Harry Armstrong and Sugar Ray Robinson proves that they fought much better and stronger fighters than Ali did, certainly relative to their weight at the time. His own stats prove he wasn’t the greatest boxer to enter the ring. It is once again just American lies, And I've no idea why, as the real greatest of them all, Joe Louis, was also American.

[Squared.Circle]

Fury should honer the contract. A 3rd fight would answer many questions. Like how did Fury all of a sudden become a George Foreman type puncher by leaving a dent on side of Wilders head. Smh.

There's a simple answer to your question...he didn't leave a dent in the side of Wilder's head

If you think a gloved hand can punch a dent into a fully developed skill...then you're as dim as Ducktay Whiner

[Squared.Circle]

The “Self Righteous” Gypsy King is gonna play the offended role even though he was already caught with PEDs in his system.

He also acts oblivious to the fact that he was questioned about his gloves against Christian Hammer by ref Marcus McDonald (a fellow Brit).

The “how dare they question moi” is probably gonna work out in his favor since his “mental health” stance is so critical for his celebrity and being not questioned.

Hopefully Team Wilder isn’t deterred by the BS fake moves - that all of a sudden fear factor that Fury is hiding behind.

Yea but, what about Ducktay Whiner's heavy costume? Or what about the referee being drunk and getting paid off? Or what about Breland being influenced by members of team Kronk? Or what about Breland spiking Ducktay Whiner's water? Have I missed any of the spastic excuses? It's hard to keep track

How embarrassing.

[Blackstarr]

Let's not pretend Fury didn't blow up in weight all the time I'm a Fury fan but he's been boozing and blowing up in weight his whole career and it's going to catch up to him and bite him in the ass sooner or later, he's basically a heavyweight Hatton, Depression is a cute excuse and all but that's all it is, it's beautiful management of the back dated ban he served from the Hammer fight using a passing comment he made years ago about depression, a master stroke by who ever is head of his PR team.

Absolutely top post! I’m a fan of a Fury, who’s clearly a special fighter and a thousand levels above Wilder.

But facts are he has wrongfully escaped a degree of scrutiny, and I made this exact point on another thread. He tested positive for nandrolone after the Hammer fight, and it was only by almost bankrupting UKAD that he escaped an immediate 2-year suspension and went on to fight Klitschko. Once he was eventually suspended in June 2016, a month before the Klitschko rematch, this was somehow hidden from public view and conveniently coincided with him already withdrawing from a supposed ankle injury and then going on hiatus for 2 years. Which also conveniently coincided with the length of a standard UKAD ban.

You’re right - Fury and his PR team are total geniuses, and I’ve said exactly the same thing before. That said, he’s still a class fighter and would finish Wilder any day of the week.

[Nuttybloke]

Meanwhile, in other news just in, over in the USA - Deontay Wilder has been in the courts this morning. He's sued his own mother, blaming her “sour-tainted breast milk” she (force-fed him), as the reason he got schooled, bullied, beaten up and robbed. His lawsuit claims her breast milk is why his legs are so skinny and that's why he got so easily beaten up.

The judge threw the case out when it was revealed his mum was actually his dad, who only fed him powdered milk. (by teaspoon).

UPDATE: Just in - Deontay Wilder has made a fresh claim Tyson Fury (grew, then sharpened) his fingernails before their fight, and it was those fingernails that Fury used to gouge in his ear making it bleed, he says this is conclusive undeniable evidence that Fury's hands were on the outside of his gloves, going as far to suggest the glove manufacture built in something like a “little trap door”.

[Nuttybloke]

Meanwhile, in other news just in, over in the USA - Deontay Wilder has been in the courts this morning. He's sued his own mother, blaming her “sour-tainted breast milk” she (force-fed him), as the reason he got schooled, bullied, beaten up and robbed. His lawsuit claims her breast milk is why his legs are so skinny and that's why he got so easily beaten up.

The judge threw the case out when it was revealed his mum was actually his dad, who only fed him powdered milk. (by teaspoon).

UPDATE: Just in - Deontay Wilder has made a fresh claim Tyson Fury (grew, then sharpened) his fingernails before their fight, and it was those fingernails that Fury used to gouge in his ear making it bleed, he says this is conclusive undeniable evidence that Fury's hands were on the outside of his gloves, going as far to suggest the glove manufacture built in something like a “little trap door”.

[Blackstarr]

And all the Americans who don't ******ly try to make Tyson the fighter he wasn't? Well they'll all claim Ali as the best? Again BULL****!

Just take Robert James “Bob” Fitzsimmons (26 May 1863 – 22 October 1917) who was a British professional boxer who was the sport's first three-division world champion.

He also achieved fame for beating Gentleman Jim Corbett (the man who beat the man, John L. Sullivan), and he's in the Guinness Book of Records as the lightest heavyweight champion of all time, Incredibly he won the Heavyweight championship of the world at only 11 stone 7 lbs.

That feat and still standing world record alone, must see him right up as one of the best 5 of all time, as nobody has ever got close to doing what he did at such a light weight in the Heavyweight division, in over 100 years!

But you'll not see anyone know this, or if they do, they ignore it, because he's not American?. That's also why so much boxing history is actually rubbish. The USA's cheating and lying, trying to create a fake history of boxing with outright lies. And many lies they'd have got away with, if others hadn't spoken up. Ring Magazine itself was found guilty of doing exactly that.

If you want to understand the length of deceit the USA will go to, to lie about historical events, this will show you what I mean...

Although Bob Fitzsimmons became a world champion in each of the Middleweight, Light-Heavyweight and Heavyweight divisions. American boxing historians do not consider him to be the first world Light-Heavyweight and Heavyweight champion. Why?

LOL @ This, “because he won the Heavyweight title before winning the Light Heavyweight title!” Haha, how pathetically sad is that? Could anybody be any more bias and pathetic? How embarrassing the American people really are man, they're famous as the global bull****ters of all time. It's never ending bull****, and it really is the same in everything you can think of, even their disgusting outright lies about WW2. It's all just lie after lie.

Well, Michael Spinks counts as the first to win the Light-Heavyweight belt and the Heavyweight belt LOL Well there's a surprise?. Because Spinks did it in (the correct order) LMFAO, that must mean Bob Fitzsimmons just doesn't count then? Hilarious, yet so incredibly and embarrassingly pathetic.

In 2003, Roy Jones Jr. joined Bob Fitzsimmons, Michael Moorer and Michael Spinks as the only men to have won world championships at both Light-Heavyweight and Heavyweight. But Michael Spinks counts as the man who did it first, even though he didn't because? Oh, just because the USA said so! LOL

Being honest and actually only going on what we do know and did see my top 10 Heavyweights of all time are...

1) Joe Louis.
2) Jack Dempsey.
3) Rocky Marciano.
4) Robert James “Bob” Fitzsimmons (explained above)
5) Muhammad Ali.
6) Larry Holmes
7) James J. Jeffries
8) Lennox Lewis
9) George Foreman
10) Jack Johnson.

Not Ali! Henry Cooper fought Cassius Clay in 1963 at Wembley Stadium. The fight was a scrappy affair, and a key moment came at the end of the fourth round. Cooper landed a left hook that sent Clay sprawling through the ropes.

Angelo Dundee helped Clay to his stool and revived him with smelling salts, something that was a violation of rules at that time. Dundee also forced a delay to repair a tear in Clay's glove, a tear some suspect Dundee created to stall for time.

A rejuvenated Clay came out for the fifth round and opened up a cut on Cooper's eye. Clay relentlessly attacked Coppers cut eye to force a stoppage on cuts, Cooper was ahead on the scorecards.

Clay, now known as Muhammad Ali, faced Cooper again in 1966 while defending his World Heavyweight Title. Clay adopted a more cautious approach only Cooper again suffered a stoppage defeat on cuts, despite AGAIN being ahead on the scorecards.

It was only cuts that prevented Cooper from beating Ali twice. But you'll never hear about this, or if you do, it will be a bull**** version some American dreamt up in his own head, LOL.

Cooper won the respect of Ali, who called him to reminisce on the 40th anniversary of the first fight. Ali once remarked on the first fight by saying Cooper had hit him “so hard my ancestors in Africa felt it.”

Ali was not the greatest at all. The facts are all there to see, read, and learn, so there is no excuse that we see anyone lie about it.

Ali won 56 out of his 61 fights, and 37 of them were knock-outs. While these are great stats, other boxers had better: Harry Greb won 262 fights!, Sugar Ray Robinson won 173, and Harry Armstrong won 150. Rocky Marciano didn’t lose a fight.

The scope of the fights makes a huge difference, since every fight is injurious (risky). A closer look at the boxing stats of Harry Armstrong and Sugar Ray Robinson proves that they fought much better and stronger fighters than Ali did, certainly relative to their weight at the time. His own stats prove he wasn’t the greatest boxer to enter the ring. It is once again just American lies, And I've no idea why, as the real greatest of them all, Joe Louis, was also American.

I really hope you’re getting paid for all these essays. Top class commitment and effort.

[Squared.Circle]

seriously and whats funny is they always say wilders crazy or hes said mean things about fury but no one explaining why fury gloves look the way they did alot of uk fans and American racist are just happy wilder loss it doesnt matter to them if fury cheated

Where's your proof Fury cheated? Three or four still images or four or five seconds of video footage of the gloves looking dodgy? I'll call your feeble, bitter hand with hundreds of still images and around 53 minutes of video footage showing his gloves behaving normal, then I'll raise your feeble, bitter hand with the fact that the gloves were inspected multiple times by the athletic commission, including after the fight. No anomalies found. Case closed.