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  • BodyBagz
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    #181
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    That prime will fall if you fight nothing but the best. He could cherry pick like so many cowards out there, but he's a real fighter.

    Why are you talking HOF when Chisora was just a good fighter? Beating a single good fighter won't put you into the hall, but beating a good list of them will.
    Or

    A legit guy with a legit prime could have had a better W/L %

    Chisora is not even 5th ranked gatekeeper.
    Never was

    What fans will do to make their guys resume look better than it is

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      #182
      Originally posted by slimPickings
      Truly comical. You are humoring me.
      Nice evidence of Wilder's lack of "elite level".

      We can all play this game of nitpicking ANY fighter's record and refer to his opponents as X level to detract from their ability. How convenient.
      Sorry bud i am not going to play your game.

      All i can tell you is that a whole lot of people have lost a lot of $$$ betting against this fighter who is not at the "elite level".

      He loses to Fury and now all the "experts" knew this was going to happen all along. How sage.

      Thanks for the humor
      So, basically, you don't dispute the opponents I named as being C-level and you can't give me one example of Wilder being an elite level fighter? Thanks for reaffirming my point

      How else is one supposed to determine the ability/level of a boxer if not by the opponents he's faced and how he's preformed?

      "Yea but Wilder has 41 stoppages, held a title for five years and he always looked good on the pads and a heavy bag!!"...great logic, thanks for your input Jay Deas

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        #183
        Originally posted by BodyBagz
        Or

        A legit guy with a legit prime could have had a better W/L %

        Chisora is not even 5th ranked gatekeeper.
        Never was

        What fans will do to make their guys resume look better than it is
        Name the fighters back then and now who would beat the guys Chisora fought at the time?

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          #184
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee
          Name the fighters back then and now who would beat the guys Chisora fought at the time?
          I don't have enough time

          Del Boy being hyped because Fury beat him

          As we now see, shlt isn't that special.

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            #185
            Originally posted by BodyBagz
            I don't have enough time

            Del Boy being hyped because Fury beat him

            As we now see, shlt isn't that special.
            Find the time. Make a legit argument. Chisora could have very well gone about his career like so many jokes have from the US. But Del Boy is a proper fighter. You fight proper fights, you're going to increase the chances of losing. Only fighting scrubs and cherry picking fighters at certain points will increase your chances of winning. Then you can live a lie and mouth off without backing yourself in any way.

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              #186
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              Find the time. Make a legit argument. Chisora could have very well gone about his career like so many jokes have from the US. But Del Boy is a proper fighter. You fight proper fights, you're going to increase the chances of losing. Only fighting scrubs and cherry picking fighters at certain points will increase your chances of winning. Then you can live a lie and mouth off without backing yourself in any way.
              Are we talking about the guys Del Boy beat or those who beat him ?

              BTW, Del is ranked 15th on the spent gatekeeper list.

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                #187
                Originally posted by BodyBagz
                Are we talking about the guys Del Boy beat or those who beat him ?

                BTW, Del is ranked 15th on the spent gatekeeper list.
                We are talking about the fighters that beat him. But you can give me the names of fighters who would beat a prime Helenius and Takam too though if you like.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                  We are talking about the fighters that beat him. But you can give me the names of fighters who would beat a prime Helenius and Takam too though if you like.
                  Would Ali beat Tyson? Could Leonard beat Robinson? Create the fantasy matches and then debate over the winner.

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                    #189
                    I'm not asking the forum. I'm asking you. You made the claim. So, support it.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      I'm not asking the forum. I'm asking you. You made the claim. So, support it.
                      Del Boy is not worth it

                      Nothing ever became of him

                      That in itself is good enough an answer

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