Comments Thread For: Frank Warren on Daniel Dubois' Injury, The Future of His Career, Joyce

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  • Fighter78
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tecnoworld
    Warren was hoping for dubois to win since he's easier for his marketing. He could have put him vs the aging ortiz or the incoming gassiev and then qiming at a title shot.

    Joyce is different. He's old by boxing standards and everybody knows he's very good. Aj won't ever be willing to fight him. Perhaps Fury, but after fighting aj and possibly wilder. And Joyce will be 37/38 by then.

    Usyk will never risk (he would almost certainly lose).
    Nearly your entire post is complete garbage...LOL

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    • joe strong
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      #22
      Originally posted by Blackstarr
      I don’t know why this hasn’t been picked up more - the way Frank has treated Joyce is an absolute disgrace! I didn’t realise he was Joyce’s promoter either, the way he had been talking so dismissively of Joyce and talking about putting Dubois in with Usyk after this fight and a whole bunch of other nonsense. No class or decency whatsoever.
      There is no doubt Warren wanted Dubois to win & I get why. He is 23 & has a good future. Probably easy to promote & probably can build a good fanbase. He really did not promote Joyce well at all. Old Fish eyes is not in a bad spot. He co-promotes Fury. He still has a young Dubois & still has Joyce who could be in line to fight for a vacant title soon if he gets Dubois’ #2 ranking with the WBO. If Fury were to beat Joshua next year & Joyce best Usyk for the vacant WBO he could make an in house unification bout at some point. Of course that is speculation on my part but it is a remote possibility. If Joyce beats Usyk maybe a rematch with Dubois for the WBO strap happens if Dubois recovers & wins s few fights. Really Warren isn’t in a bad spot at the moment.

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      • Tecnoworld
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        #23
        Originally posted by Fighter78
        Nearly your entire post is complete garbage...LOL
        Cool, what about yours? Lol

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        • Blackstarr
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          #24
          Originally posted by Tecnoworld
          Cool, what about yours? Lol
          I mean he’s certainly not wrong..that post is the biggest garbage on this thread by a country mile. How did you even come up with such s**t? You haven’t even cared to explain your thinking when asked. I’m guessing you must have been trolling for no good reason.

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            #25
            Originally posted by joe strong
            There is no doubt Warren wanted Dubois to win & I get why. He is 23 & has a good future. Probably easy to promote & probably can build a good fanbase. He really did not promote Joyce well at all. Old Fish eyes is not in a bad spot. He co-promotes Fury. He still has a young Dubois & still has Joyce who could be in line to fight for a vacant title soon if he gets Dubois’ #2 ranking with the WBO. If Fury were to beat Joshua next year & Joyce best Usyk for the vacant WBO he could make an in house unification bout at some point. Of course that is speculation on my part but it is a remote possibility. If Joyce beats Usyk maybe a rematch with Dubois for the WBO strap happens if Dubois recovers & wins s few fights. Really Warren isn’t in a bad spot at the moment.
            You’re right, it’s completely understandable why DDD is the favourite. But there’s one thing having a favourite, and there’s another thing completely disrespecting Joyce by acting as if he’s a journeyman promoted by someone else that Warren is only intending to use as yet more cannon fodder for Dubois.

            What you’ve said is all well and good, assuming that Joyce stays with Warren, which he very well shouldn’t. And Dubois has a very long way to go before reaching world level, if at all that ever happens. There’s a lot of ifs in your post, which we’ll just have to wait and see about.

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              #26
              Originally posted by joe strong
              There is no doubt Warren wanted Dubois to win & I get why. He is 23 & has a good future. Probably easy to promote & probably can build a good fanbase. He really did not promote Joyce well at all. Old Fish eyes is not in a bad spot. He co-promotes Fury. He still has a young Dubois & still has Joyce who could be in line to fight for a vacant title soon if he gets Dubois’ #2 ranking with the WBO. If Fury were to beat Joshua next year & Joyce best Usyk for the vacant WBO he could make an in house unification bout at some point. Of course that is speculation on my part but it is a remote possibility. If Joyce beats Usyk maybe a rematch with Dubois for the WBO strap happens if Dubois recovers & wins s few fights. Really Warren isn’t in a bad spot at the moment.
              I believe Dubois should take some easier fights first to recover. And I am glad to hear both guys made a good money with that fight.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Blackstarr
                You’re right, it’s completely understandable why DDD is the favourite. But there’s one thing having a favourite, and there’s another thing completely disrespecting Joyce by acting as if he’s a journeyman promoted by someone else that Warren is only intending to use as yet more cannon fodder for Dubois.

                What you’ve said is all well and good, assuming that Joyce stays with Warren, which he very well shouldn’t. And Dubois has a very long way to go before reaching world level, if at all that ever happens. There’s a lot of ifs in your post, which we’ll just have to wait and see about.
                That is why I said it was just speculation on my part. Most unlikely to happen but not completely out of the question. I could see Joyce leaving Warren when contract finished but there is still Fury in his stable & if he fights Usyk & wins a vacant WBO strap. Both Fury & Joshua will be looking at him so staying with Warren might not be a bad idea for the time being. See what unfolds in 2021...

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                • Tecnoworld
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Blackstarr
                  I mean he’s certainly not wrong..that post is the biggest garbage on this thread by a country mile. How did you even come up with such s**t? You haven’t even cared to explain your thinking when asked. I’m guessing you must have been trolling for no good reason.
                  Wow and in your following post you comment almost the same things I said and agree with them.

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                    #29
                    Daniel wants the rematch, that shows heart. Good luck to him.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SN!PER
                      Daniel wants the rematch, that shows heart. Good luck to him.
                      ****** idea. Joyce must move forward, Dubois should get some wins first. Immediate rematch is very bad idea.

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