How would Tyson vs Jones have turned out in 2003

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  • Armchairhero
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    #21
    Originally posted by T.McGrady
    The "Roy" that fought Ruiz is a totally different fighter than the one that fought Tarver.

    Roy had the perfect defensive plan last night, Tyson simply couldn't build any momentum on the inside. Roy was totally out of shape, he's as heavy as he ever been, and the ring was very small. There was no room for Roy to run even if he wanted to do. The fight was tailor made for Tyson to knock Jones out and he couldn't.

    2003 "pre Tarver" Roy would've dance all night around Tyson throwing all kinds of fast combinations from the outside, I could see Tyson getting really frustrated in the mid rounds. The only chance Tyson had is to catch Roy with his back against the ropes which would never happened with prime Roy.
    Yeh that Roy was juiced to the gills, I say that as a huge RJJ fan.

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    • SweetPbfAli
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      #22
      The funny thing about Tyson was that he was always far too easy to control in clinches.. It's like as soon as you grab him, he stops resisting and working. I never understood it.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Danny Williams fooked up Tyson's day in 2004.

        Roy ain't no HW, but he was still Roy or mostly Roy in 2003. Tyson wasn't Tyson in 2003.
        To be fair, Tyson ****ed his knee up and the fight went to **** for him afterwards.

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        • dannnnn
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          #24
          No version of Jones has any real business being in the ring with Tyson. Jones was not a heavyweight and Tyson would have walked through him at any point.

          Jones was always overrated anyway due to his flashy style and lacklustre opposition. A 40 year old Mike McCallum was able to pin a prime Jones to the ropes quite frequently in a way reminiscent of the Glen Johnson knockout, but McCallum was too far gone to make his punches really count. Prime versus prime McCallum beats Jones.

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          • The D3vil
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            #25
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            Danny Williams fooked up Tyson's day in 2004.

            Roy ain't no HW, but he was still Roy or mostly Roy in 2003. Tyson wasn't Tyson in 2003.
            Dude Tyson tore his ACL in the fight against Danny Williams. He was whooping Williams' ass in the first few rounds before his leg as fxcked up.

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            • T.McGrady
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              #26
              Originally posted by The D3vil
              Roy could never hurt Mike.

              Show me one smaller opponent who ever troubled Mike.

              Plus, Mike wasn't some slow plodding George Foreman type. He's the fastest heavyweight of all-time not named Muhammad Ali & maybe Floyd Patterson.

              Even the 2003 version of Tyson would be quick enough to get a heavyweight Roy Jones at least a few good time.
              Dude, as a heavyweight, Roy was faster, watch his fight with Ruiz. I simply don't see Tyson beat Roy in 2003.

              ...and I've never said that Roy would KO Tyson.

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              • T.McGrady
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                #27
                Originally posted by ironmike2012
                Mike wins, as someone else said only big fighters gave him trouble, Roy would have had to run to whole fight and not get caught.
                No way Roy would take his punches for 12 rounds, not a chance.
                Roy was good, but Mike was still laying out people at the end, he broke Golota's neck with a punch (6'4" 240 lbs) and made him quit.
                Roy was just too small and chin wouldn't have held up.
                lol. We're talking 2003 Roy here(before all the weight loss),catching him clean is close to impossible. I don't see that version of Tyson going straight at him without getting counter punched with a combo.

                Roy would have had to run to whole fight and not get caught.
                That's exactly what he would've done. lol.



                Originally posted by sbbigmike
                I sat back and tried not to address Rooiiii fans...but he got his ass kicked and was sucking wind like he took a gunshot to the gut 2 min in.....this was a Tyson pulling his punches, trying to not throw head shots and wearing sparring gloves...
                LMFAO! I don't know what fight you were watching. Tyson was clearly trying to knock Roy's head off, matter of fact, he caught him flush on the chin several times.


                I'm not impressed by his performance in general, but what impressed me is the way he handled Tyson on the inside. He gave him absolutely no room to throw uppercuts. He had the perfect defensive plan, and Tyson was clearly getting frustrated the fight went on. I'm not saying that Tyson was the same fighter he was 15yrs ago, but let's be honest here, he was fighting in his natural weight class, and he was in a much better shape than Roy, whos 42lbs heavier than his natural weight. With this defensive plan, there is no way Tyson would beat Roy in 2003.

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                • ShaneMosleySr
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                  #28
                  Controversial draw and rematch.

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                  • Samokries
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by T.McGrady
                    lol. We're talking 2003 Roy here(before all the weight loss),catching him clean is close to impossible. I don't see that version of Tyson going straight at him without getting counter punched with a combo.

                    LMFAO! I don't know what fight you were watching. Tyson was clearly trying to knock Roy's head off, matter of fact, he caught him flush on the chin several times.
                    Well, I wouldn’t jump to a conclusion that RJJ was nearly invincible as a heavyweight in 2003 based just on his (great) performance against technically lesser opponent such as Ruiz, (try to imagine him facing Lewis or one of Klitschko brothers back then). I am a big fan of RJJ, but frankly, he was lucky to face a beatable HW titleholder and made history.
                    As for hypothetical RJJ/Tyson fight in 2003, size matters, and it plays even a greater role as skills are evenly matched, as it transforms in punch power and punch resistance vice versa. If you ever boxed, even did a hard sparring, than you know that, you can run, you can counter the bigger guy with a combo, for sure, but you have to pack some real power in your punches for him (your bigger opponent) to respect you, otherwise, he’ll just walk through your combo and eventually rock you with one or two bombs that you can’t take for rounds. Also, you hardly win a fight with running, picking your opponent from outside here and there and not engaging.
                    As for the Saturdays’s “event”- and that was not a fight by any means, that was an exhibition (or more like "semi-hard to the body - tag to the head" sparring for older veterans and younger amateurs) - no, Tyson was not “trying to knock Roy's head off”, he was clearly pulling his punches, and (for most of the time) didn’t go for a head shot during combos (although, he got carried away a bit in the last round and caught Roy with one good 1-2).
                    Ps. sorry for my bad English.

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