Genetics Is Simply Not Fair. Look At Pac VS Brook

[Floyd is TBE]

jeff horn? he is a wrestler. what can you expect from such a dirty fighter. he even use hug, elbow and head. too bad pac is not a dirty fighter. he don't have to fight the horn style. plus it was held in australia. a bias and paid jugdes and referee.

I scored that fight for Pac as well, but there's no denying Horn's size was giving him trouble. My point was Pac doesn't have the tools or the power to keep those larger fighters off him. Crawford would **** Pac up if they fought now.

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I scored that fight for Pac as well, but there's no denying Horn's size was giving him trouble. My point was Pac doesn't have the tools or the power to keep those larger fighters off him. Crawford would **** Pac up if they fought now.

if you've watched how pacman fights then you'll see he has lesser hugs and almost to none use of elbow or what ever illegal strike. margarito, dela hoya, algeiri, vargas were bigger than him but he still manage to defeat and outclassed them. but if the size is mixed with dirty tactics it would be really hard for everyone. i see your point.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

A jab is a straight punch, it activates your medial deltoid to directly pull up your arm. If the punch is moving across your chest it’s a cross, you are activating more of the pecs and likely getting more torque. If you got a nook in your elbow it’s a hook, not a jab. How much you turn your body doesn’t mean much, arm-punches exist and even the jab you turn into. Regardless you can see how little of Crawfords right pec is visible before the punch compared to after the punch.

Call it a variation of a jab, a hook, or a cross. But It’s not a jab, it’s a punch that would fall short at long range because it’s aiming to the floor or to the side, a punch that has existed for ages. Pacquiao uses it a good amount too. Golovkin I think so also. I don’t think anyone throws it thinking they are throwing a jab, More like a very wide hook. Crawford also called it “more of a hook”.

A hybrid-jab is a fair assessment though.

He didn’t fully extend his arm cause Brook’s face got in the way.

It was far more of a straight shot than a hook. With a hook you rotate your body, transferring weight from left to right or vice versa dependant on stance. Crawford didn’t do any of that, it was a reactive shot. Looking at it geometrically, at the range he was at you wouldn’t usually counter with a hook either.

I’m not saying it was a textbook jab by any stretch but it certainly weren’t no hook. It reminded me a bit of that 1-2-1 Kovalev would throw, that final left he’d throw would be like a jab but he’d generate far more force as he’d throw it from an unorthodox position with more leverage.

[Floyd is TBE]

if you've watched how pacman fights then you'll see he has lesser hugs and almost to none use of elbow or what ever illegal strike. margarito, dela hoya, algeiri, vargas were bigger than him but he still manage to defeat and outclassed them. but if the size is mixed with dirty tactics it would be really hard for everyone. i see your point.

How many of those guys you just named did Pac fight at a catch-weight? As Lavar Ball would say: He (Pac) too little.

[HeadShots]

if you've watched how pacman fights then you'll see he has lesser hugs and almost to none use of elbow or what ever illegal strike. margarito, dela hoya, algeiri, vargas were bigger than him but he still manage to defeat and outclassed them. but if the size is mixed with dirty tactics it would be really hard for everyone. i see your point.

this is correct.


Pac's skills is on another level compared to Mayweather, Ward and Hopkins imo.

They skate by cheating tactics and home court advantage.

Pac boxes clean and is greater than all of them.

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How many of those guys you just named did Pac fight at a catch-weight? As Lavar Ball would say: He (Pac) too little.

there's a size difference like you've said. correct? so one needs to cut and gain weight just to meet. of course bigger men have always the upperhand plus the dirty tactics. pac might be small be still he don't play dirty.

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this is correct.


Pac's skills is on another level compared to Mayweather, Ward and Hopkins imo.

They skate by cheating tactics and home court advantage.

Pac boxes clean and is greater than all of them.

actually i'm more impressed with his willingness to bring up a good fight while keeping it clean and entertaining.

[Ca$ual Fan]

if you've watched how pacman fights then you'll see he has lesser hugs and almost to none use of elbow or what ever illegal strike. margarito, dela hoya, algeiri, vargas were bigger than him but he still manage to defeat and outclassed them. but if the size is mixed with dirty tactics it would be really hard for everyone. i see your point.

You have a point here buddy. I can even imagine Brandon Rios doing the same as Horn did to Pac had he tried to use his physical size and fight dirty. Clottey would have done that too alot better than Horn did if they were allowed by the ref like that one in Australia.

That Horn fight should have been ruled as a DQ or a NC. It looked like a non-boxing match

[RyanjLarose]

Let’s be honest Pac is likely juiced up the grills.

lets be honest...so was brook and every other fighter ever lol

so now that were back to square one , whats the difference

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You have a point here buddy. I can even imagine Brandon Rios doing the same as Horn did to Pac had he tried to use his physical size and fight dirty. Clottey would have done that too alot better than Horn did if they were allowed by the ref like that one in Australia.

That Horn fight should have been ruled as a DQ or a NC. It looked like a non-boxing match

the ninth round should be the stoppage round. horn is fighting for his life and can't even use his hugs and dirty tactics.. but the referee is fkn paid.