Comments Thread For: Errol Spence: A Fight With Canelo Would Be Awesome at 160-Pounds

[Boricua181]

Let's see how he does vs. Spence Jr. first. I seriously doubt Danny or Errol can beat Bud. Bud has another gear that neither of them seem to have. If Errol had it, no way in Hell a blown-up featherweight like Mikey lasts 12 rounds with him. You're right about Danny's stamina concerns because I can see how measured he fights, almost like he only wants to throw a certain number of punches each round.

I think Angel is a good dude and I think it says a lot about Danny that he wants to keep his father close and always wants to look out for him. Who's to say another trainer might not have meshed with Danny and he might not have had the career he's had. Remember that Khan was piecing Danny up the first two rounds until his father calmed him down and he scored the KO.

I've been following boxing since the mid 70s. I remember all the Puerto Rican greats because I followed them all. Sammy Serrano, Esteban Dejesus, Alfredo Escalera, Wilfred Benitez, Wilfredo Gomez. Macho Man was one of my 5 all-time favorite fighters. I watched his fights on CBS Saturday and Sunday afternoons. When I first start buying boxing magazines, the fighters that really got me interested were Ali, Jimmy Young, Escalera, Miguel Canto, Carlos Monzon, Benny Briscoe. Those were the good old days.

I've been following boxing since the 70's as well. I remember all those Puerto Rican greats, Sammy Serrano, Alfredo Escalera, Wilfredo Benitez, Wilfredo Gomez, Hector Camacho, and to a lesser extent Angel Espada, Juan Laporte, and Carlos Deleon. Those were the glory day's of boxing for the island of Puerto Rico. I really enjoyed watching Alfredo "El Salsero" Escalera, dancing into the ring to salsa, and a Boa constrictor around his neck to boot. He had heart, rhythm, power, good chin, a positive spirit, just an overall charismatic fighter. Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez is probably the best fighter to ever come out of Puerto Rico. I'm waiting for the next great decade of Puerto Rican fighters to emerge the 2020's might have started it already with Berlanga, Zayas, Matias, Verdejo, Adorno, Acosta, Cuevas, Feliciano, Reyes, Serrano, Pedraza, Zorrila, Garcia, Rivera. and Torres. By 2023 we'll definitely know if we have a group of fighters to rival our old glory days in boxing. It 'll be interesting to watch, and see which one's are able to achieve legendary status. I believe that some of them will win championships, and retain said championships for an extended period of time.

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He really thinks he doesn’t need Bud. What happened to “Strap Season”?
WBC
Without Bud Crawford
WBO
With Bud Option

[Mindgames]

You and I both know Canelo lost that first fight - no matter what Adelaide Byrd said about it.

But we need to understand WHY he lost.

Canelo is not the defensive wizard when someone walks him down, regardless of size. And again, skill wise, I see Spence tagging the hell out of him all night long.

Or did you forget that Khan was damn near landing at will before he got hit?

Golovkin probably did deserve the win,he did hes best scoring with that pole like jab of hes ,a jab that is nothing like Spences pawing jab.No Porter type short guy is catching a Floyd type guy the way Errol was caught, consistently.
Now Khan got starched ,and he wasn't shutting Canelo out either, but he did well with that in and out style that Errol doesn't have,and the blazing speed that Errol doesn't have either.Sure Errol will land some on Canelo,but the difference is he'll take plenty back,plenty more than he did even from Porter or Brook.Again,this style wont be anything like Floyd's defensively brilliant ,pot shot counter style,and nothing in Spences history suggests he can box anything like that.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Golovkin probably did deserve the win,he did hes best scoring with that pole like jab of hes ,a jab that is nothing like Spences pawing jab.No Porter type short guy is catching a Floyd type guy the way Errol was caught, consistently.
Now Khan got starched ,and he wasn't shutting Canelo out either, but he did well with that in and out style that Errol doesn't have,and the blazing speed that Errol doesn't have either.Sure Errol will land some on Canelo,but the difference is he'll take plenty back,plenty more than he did even from Porter or Brook.Again,this style wont be anything like Floyd's defensively brilliant ,pot shot counter style,and nothing in Spences history suggests he can box anything like that.

Nothing in Spence's history suggested he could stop Chris Algieri, either. We saw what happened.

And before you say it, back before that fight MULTIPLE people on NSB predicted Algieri would outbox him despite me clearly telling them what was going to happen.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=708064&page=4

wow how are you proud to be a sheep? I love Floyd ..>I've seen all his fights multiple times(something I bet you can't say) and I would beat myself with a hammer before I ever repeated the catch phrase of Floyd's boxing team..

Spence has fought nobodies...Want to see his level? go watch him struggle in sparring with Ashley Theophane..Algeri got this.

Spence is done, anything that comes out the TMT gym always cheats or fails. How mickey bey won that lightweight belt is beyond me. Chris is an all american athlete, he will prevail. Spence hasn't faced anyone at ALL.

exactly anybody from the two missing testicles (tmt) team always gets hyped up and then gets knocked the *** out spencey will be no different.tmt

I have a feeling whoever put money on Algieri is going to make a nice buck

I was poking fun doe. I'm predicting a UD win, Algieri.

I'm betting one billion points. Who wants it?

Algieri is unstoppable. He always gets up after a brutal KD. He's a 12 rounder.

This is definitely a fight Algieri can win. In fact, I hope he does. The guy always comes to fight and he will fight anybody. We need more of that in boxing.

He would then go on to stop Kell Brook, cementing his place at the top.


NOBODY has an easy night against Shawn Porter (which is why Crawford doesn't want it - confirmed by Arum). Despite that, Spence fought Porter straight up and got the W.

He's getting better, skill wise. The ONLY Joker is what the accident has done to him.

If he stops Danny Swift, I'm really going to need NSB to acknowledge this man as the top dog.

[Combat Talk Radio]

He really thinks he doesn’t need Bud. What happened to “Strap Season”?
WBC
Without Bud Crawford
WBO
With Bud Option

One of two things will happen in 2021. Bookmark this post.

1. Crawford loses a suspect decision and drops the title.
2. Crawford joins PBC, which will result in him fighting (and losing to) Shawn Porter.


If either happen, Keef will be right there to pick up the title, then you'll see Spence/Keef to unify.


Manny is very likely to retire next year, which vacates that title and sets up an eliminator between Ugas and Ortiz. I have Ortiz winning that fight decisively.

Keef is not beating Spence, so he'll be retired in a year or two. I suspect Swift will retire after his fight.


That leaves Spence vs. Ortiz - meanwhile you'll have some dudes moving up as contenders.


If Crawford doesn't choose option 2 before option 1, he's not even in the conversation.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Nothing in Spence's history suggested he could stop Chris Algieri, either. We saw what happened.

And before you say it, back before that fight MULTIPLE people on NSB predicted Algieri would outbox him despite me clearly telling them what was going to happen.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=708064&page=4

He would then go on to stop Kell Brook, cementing his place at the top.


NOBODY has an easy night against Shawn Porter (which is why Crawford doesn't want it - confirmed by Arum). Despite that, Spence fought Porter straight up and got the W.

He's getting better, skill wise. The ONLY Joker is what the accident has done to him.

If he stops Danny Swift, I'm really going to need NSB to acknowledge this man as the top dog.

Wow. I really blew it on that one. Haha. Man, that's an old post!

[No lie]

One of two things will happen in 2021. Bookmark this post.

1. Crawford loses a suspect decision and drops the title.
2. Crawford joins PBC, which will result in him fighting (and losing to) Shawn Porter.


If either happen, Keef will be right there to pick up the title, then you'll see Spence/Keef to unify.


Manny is very likely to retire next year, which vacates that title and sets up an eliminator between Ugas and Ortiz. I have Ortiz winning that fight decisively.

Keef is not beating Spence, so he'll be retired in a year or two. I suspect Swift will retire after his fight.


That leaves Spence vs. Ortiz - meanwhile you'll have some dudes moving up as contenders.


If Crawford doesn't choose option 2 before option 1, he's not even in the conversation.

Spence has a better shot at beating Crawford
But I doubt it
Spence not beating canelo or rather Spence can’t beat canelo
Spence not that good he not floyd

[Mindgames]

Nothing in Spence's history suggested he could stop Chris Algieri, either. We saw what happened.

And before you say it, back before that fight MULTIPLE people on NSB predicted Algieri would outbox him despite me clearly telling them what was going to happen.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=708064&page=4

He would then go on to stop Kell Brook, cementing his place at the top.


NOBODY has an easy night against Shawn Porter (which is why Crawford doesn't want it - confirmed by Arum). Despite that, Spence fought Porter straight up and got the W.

He's getting better, skill wise. The ONLY Joker is what the accident has done to him.

If he stops Danny Swift, I'm really going to need NSB to acknowledge this man as the top dog.

Look,that Algeri fanboys thought he was better than Spence is neither here or there.He wasn't a betting underdog. As for Porter,Kell Brook and Thurman clearly beat him too,but Spence had a tough close fight,which isn't saying hes rubbish, but he did get hit alot.You think hes got the skills to float through a Canelo fight not getting hit the way Floyd did.Theres no evidence he can do that because he hasn't even done that against far inferior opponents to Canelo.Think about it mate,your going from Algeri ,Brook, a points win against a small lightweight, a very close punishing one with Porter,to outboxing Canelo without getting a scratch on him.He probably wont stop Garcia,like he didn't stop Porter or Mikey,but whatever he does ,he isn't Floyd skill wise ,and never will be.

[No lie]

Everyone on pbc ducking Crawford
Not just Spence
Porter Thurman Danny ugas they all turning down fights
I kinda don’t blame them none of those guys can beat Crawford not even Spence
They tryna age Crawford out

[Sid-Knee]

Name ONE opponent - Khan doesn't count - that Canelo seriously hurt in the past 5 years.

To smaller fighters that aren't his own size? yeah, he'll wreak them.

Spence can't just go straight into that kind of fight at Middle. And not with his style where he's right in front of you. He won't hold Canelo back with anything in his armoury.