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  • #51
    Originally posted by revelated View Post
    Yeah. Spence is more aggressive than Floyd.

    Floyd walked Canelo down. What do you think Spence will do?




    I didn't say size will or won't play a factor. I said SKILL FOR SKILL, Spence is the superior fighter.

    Canelo is good. VERY good.

    But Floyd showed us over 12 rounds and Golovkin showed us over 24 rounds that Canelo is there to be hit. He has defensive weaknesses when you are the aggressor. He's only effective when you let him be. Thus why Cotto struggled as much as he did.
    spence has zero chance at walking down canelo we are not talking about lil mikey garcia here, and you need to stop using your triangle teories with floyd, different styles ...
    im not even sure that spence wouldnt beat the drained version of canelo that fought floyd, let alone this much more improved P4P king...

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Boricua181 View Post
      I agree with your assessments 100%, Danny has got to commit to throwing combinations. Doubling, and tripling on his jabs, hooks, and uppercuts. Throwing one punch at a time just doesn't cut it at the elite level in the sport of boxing. What is he afraid of tiring out, the fights he's lost were all due to getting out worked. He knows this already he has to make the adjustments, all his punches don't have to be thrown hard, and heavy. He needs to be fluid with his punches, some fast and light, and when the opportunity arises some hard and heavy. He'll be able to keep his opponents blinded, pressured, confused, and most importantly surprised. He'll definitely get more knockout victories, punching in combination. Your also right about Spence not fighting at his best, when he's constantly being pressured. One more thing is that Danny's father isn't a very good chief second. Danny has been reached a level in boxing, where he needs the best trainer providing instructions in his corner. His father is totally lost when it comes to giving his son instructions in between rounds, all he does is yell, and curse. Danny is loyal to a fault, he should have up graded long ago.
      I could not agree with your assessments more. You summed it up perfectly. I thought Danny lost the Herrera fight. The Peterson fight could have gone either way. I thought the Thurman loss was closer than the Porter loss. Danny has never lost badly, and that's something that's hard to do when you've faced as many top level guys across two divisions as he has. His resume is not quite as good as Sweet Pea's or Ward's, but I would put it on a level with Carl Froch's or Zab Judah's.

      I think to win on the 5th, Garcia will have to let his hands go in a measured way like he did vs. Matthysse. That was the best win of his career and sad to say, I lost $400 on that fight. Like you said, a big key for him will be blinding Spence with a busy jab. Porter was able to somewhat neutralize Errol's jab for most of their fight. Shawn made one key error when he dipped in and dropped his left hand and got nailed with a counter right hook. If not for that one mistake, Porter wins that fight. I would love to see Crawford vs. the winner of this fight. I think Crawford beats them both, to be honest. The hardest fight for Bud at 147 is Porter, in my opinion.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by BlackR0bbb View Post
        I could not agree with your assessments more. You summed it up perfectly. I thought Danny lost the Herrera fight. The Peterson fight could have gone either way. I thought the Thurman loss was closer than the Porter loss. Danny has never lost badly, and that's something that's hard to do when you've faced as many top level guys across two divisions as he has. His resume is not quite as good as Sweet Pea's or Ward's, but I would put it on a level with Carl Froch's or Zab Judah's.

        I think to win on the 5th, Garcia will have to let his hands go in a measured way like he did vs. Matthysse. That was the best win of his career and sad to say, I lost $400 on that fight. Like you said, a big key for him will be blinding Spence with a busy jab. Porter was able to somewhat neutralize Errol's jab for most of their fight. Shawn made one key error when he dipped in and dropped his left hand and got nailed with a counter right hook. If not for that one mistake, Porter wins that fight. I would love to see Crawford vs. the winner of this fight. I think Crawford beats them both, to be honest. The hardest fight for Bud at 147 is Porter, in my opinion.
        I agree with about 90% of your analysis, and let me tell you that it's pretty good, and this is why. Herrera is the only fighter, whom completely befuddled Danny just couldn't time him right. Herrera had a very fluid boxing style, and one punch Garcia just wasn't able to catch up, and keep up with him. That's why Danny needs to develop a more fluid boxing style, so he doesn't get timed, out boxed, or out worked. The Peterson fight could've been a draw, and they were saying that Lamont may have outweighed Danny by a considerable amount. If you look at both Thurman, and Porter they both looked worried prior to the decision being announced. They knew their fights with Danny were close, and could've been scored for either way. Porter actually looked surprised that he was awarded the decision. If he "let's his hands go in a measured way like he did vs. Matthysee". I think he can any fighter in the welterweight division, including Terrance Crawford. Whom have already fought each other a couple of times in the amateur's, having scored wins against each other back then. I think that Crawford's seek, and destroy style, would bring out the savage in Garcia. It would be an epic fight, probably one for the boxing annals, and you should know from experience, don't bet against Danny. I also had Porter winning in a close fight against Errol, up until he got dropped. Porter, or Crawford should be next up for the winner of the Spence, and Garcia fight. That right there would be the unified welterweight champion of the world.

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        • #54
          Swift isn't the greatest ever, but he's definitely enough to give Spence all he can handle... no matter how it ends up. Spence needs to concentrate on that, not some fat paycheck fantasy fight he'd never win. He'd be wondering if he'd just been in a second major car wreck afterwards.

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          • #55
            This is the the lure to bait Crawford into PBC. All want a piece of Bud. At least Bud can stay busy with meaningful competition once he ditches Arum that no longer wants to pay him

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Bandman View Post
              i don't think Canelo will drop to 160 again. it'll be 168-175 from now on
              Agree! I think the plan might be 168 clean up with. Just don't fight Beterbiev.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Boricua181 View Post
                I agree with about 90% of your analysis, and let me tell you that it's pretty good, and this is why. Herrera is the only fighter, whom completely befuddled Danny just couldn't time him right. Herrera had a very fluid boxing style, and one punch Garcia just wasn't able to catch up, and keep up with him. That's why Danny needs to develop a more fluid boxing style, so he doesn't get timed, out boxed, or out worked. The Peterson fight could've been a draw, and they were saying that Lamont may have outweighed Danny by a considerable amount. If you look at both Thurman, and Porter they both looked worried prior to the decision being announced. They knew their fights with Danny were close, and could've been scored for either way. Porter actually looked surprised that he was awarded the decision. If he "let's his hands go in a measured way like he did vs. Matthysee". I think he can any fighter in the welterweight division, including Terrance Crawford. Whom have already fought each other a couple of times in the amateur's, having scored wins against each other back then. I think that Crawford's seek, and destroy style, would bring out the savage in Garcia. It would be an epic fight, probably one for the boxing annals, and you should know from experience, don't bet against Danny. I also had Porter winning in a close fight against Errol, up until he got dropped. Porter, or Crawford should be next up for the winner of the Spence, and Garcia fight. That right there would be the unified welterweight champion of the world.
                Herrera was a very crafty veteran who knew what to do to make it deep into the fight where he knew Danny slows down. Danny even slowed down a bit late vs. Matthysse. Peterson looked bigger because he was likely doing PEDs. He was popped a year or two earlier. I think Crawford will score a fairly wide UD over Garcia. I doubt he stops him. I think Bud has a better chance of stopping Manny and Errol than he would of stopping Danny or Shawn. Speaking to your point about Garcia needing a better trainer...I think he realizes he has great chemistry with his father and that at this point in his career, Danny's skills, tendencies and strengths are pretty much baked-in. Angel simply fine tunes that which Danny does best and banks on his chin keeping him out of danger against real punchers.

                One thing I've always respected about Garcia is his business acumen. He invests his money and owns real estate. You also never read about him getting in trouble in clubs or getting caught up in the child support trap. He's a pretty wise dude.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by revelated View Post
                  Floyd went "life and death" with Oscar before outboxing a "Canelo level fighter". Or did you forget?

                  Styles make fights, bro.
                  Styles do,but Spence isn't similar to Floyd in any way.He gets hit ,he hasn't got anything like Floyd's defence or movement .Oscar had good rounds at the start with hes jab and reach advantage ,but Floyd clearly beat Oscar.Canelo didn't have the range or left jab of Oscar.Canelo doesn't have trouble with come forward fighters. If the 5 foot 6 Porter can land on him, Canelo lands on him in ways he never could with Floyd.No comparison I can see.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
                    Styles do,but Spence isn't similar to Floyd in any way.He gets hit ,he hasn't got anything like Floyd's defence or movement .Oscar had good rounds at the start with hes jab and reach advantage ,but Floyd clearly beat Oscar.Canelo didn't have the range or left jab of Oscar.Canelo doesn't have trouble with come forward fighters. If the 5 foot 6 Porter can land on him, Canelo lands on him in ways he never could with Floyd.No comparison I can see.
                    Hahahaha!!!




                    Even got Broner's head shake down.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by revelated View Post
                      Hahahaha!!!




                      Even got Broner's head shake down.
                      Did Golovkin box hes ears off like Floyd did? Did Canelo draw one and win one? What did I miss? Canelo easily landed on Golovkin but Spence will be some unhitable ghost yeah? Like he was with Porter and Brook..

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