Why do people think Tyson Fury is good?

[PRINCEKOOL]

People who don’t realise how good he is don’t really understand boxing.

Of course he doesn’t look as aesthetically pleasing as a welterweight because he’s 6’8 or so, but There’s not many fighters in boxing that can fight inside or outside , orthodox or southpaw, going backwards or going forwards, tough, great punch resistance/recovery, great judgement of distance , ring IQ etc..

Put it this way,,he dethroned Wlad and also beat the biggest puncher of the generation, both who happen to be the two longest reigning champions of current times, and he beat them in two entirely different fashions. dethroned Wlad by fighting on the back foot and beat Wilder going right at him, even though his power is immense is immense.

Like him or not, it’s time people just realise that he’s actually just really good and that’s all there is to it. His biggest flaw is fighting down to the level of opposition.

People consider Usyk as some master boxer but he just had a very close fight with Chisora, and Chisora is not great but he always gives everyone a tough fight except Tyson Fury. Fury took Chisora’s 0 and whooped him again, and has still been the only person who never allowed Chisora to be even competitive for a second of the fight. That was a young and fresh Chisora without lots of losses. but today’s supposed master boxers like Usyk are still struggling with him. Even in the first fight, a green Fury dealt with Chisora better than Vitali could

Fury is just a cut above the current heavyweights.

Fury was bashed about the ring by Chisora in the first fight, from my observation it was a war 'The second fight, saw the new and improved Tyson Fury' Who beat Chisora the only way most fighters can beat him via out boxing him? Very few fighters chose voluntary to break Chisora's momentum. Only David Haye & Dillian Whyte have fought Chisora head on, force vs force and canceled him out etc

It was only around the Martin Rogan fight, where Fury started to shed the universal opinion of himself 'That he was just a big clumsy, yet awkard heavyweight'.

I don't think Tyson Fury is a fraud, but I will say this? Innately, I still think he is a clumsy heavyweight. He fought Wladimir Kiltschko the only way he could, and Deontay Wilder was stylistically a fight tailor made for him 'Now that all the fear factor of the fight has been and gone, people understand this'.

Sure Tyson Fury can fight going forwards, backwards and on the inside 'But is every dimension to his game really that great? He squares up on the inside, and looks wide open to me at times 'There is a clumsy kid still living inside of him, for all of his genius I always get the feeling? He could be a moment away from being ****** out'.

[Dakuwaqa]

I think your last paragraph is the reason why he gets so much hype. And I think it’s because we’ve never had a 6’9 athlete who can box and the bums at that height in boxing are always stationary. However, based on the eye test - his lateral speed is **** average and he lacks quickness. The herky-jerky style also makes his upper body movement look better than it’s.

Obviously, I’ve seen the videos but they were against Schwarz and Wilder for crying out loud. He won’t dare try that against a quality boxer. He didn’t even try it against Wlad.

I look at Fury like this: if you’ve been a pro for almost 14 yrs and can’t put a combination together properly without all the clumsiness and pawing with your left before swinging with your right very wide at 180 - you’re a KO waiting to happen. And when he comes forward - he’s always open to hooks and uppercuts.

I just haven’t seen anything special from the guy to make me think he’s as good as noise. And every time he has fought anyone who can box a bit (without controversy) apart from Wlad - he has been busted up or put on his arse. Those guys weren’t just decent enough to finish the job and that’s the reason they aren’t world level.

You make some solid points. My question is who’s out there that can beat him?

[BangEM]

You make some solid points. My question is who’s out there that can beat him?

I believe stylistically - if AJ doesn’t come into the ring carrying too much muscles like he did against Wlad, Takam and Ruiz 1 - he eight sparks Fury or outpoint him with a couple of knock downs.

Fury doesn’t throw uppercut which is Whyte’s kryptonite...so I’d favour Whyte in an upset by KO.

I also think Usyk can beat Fury due to his work rate. Fury doesn’t hit that hard and Usyk does everything better than Fury and he’s quicker by a mile. And let’s be honest - Fury struggles against small guys that can move.

[QueensburyRules]

Otto Wallin busted this slick fighter up, and hurt fury in round 12 that had Fury holding onto the ropes and clinching LMAO.

- -Why peoples think U double Dumm-Dumm?

[sbbigmike]

Otto Wallin busted this slick fighter up, and hurt fury in round 12 that had Fury holding onto the ropes and clinching LMAO.

fury is a fraud. AJ would KO him 100%./

Still thinks fury get his ass kicked by ortiz the better boxer

[deathofaclown]

He's good, better than the current crop of HWs for sure (who are nothing to write home about) but he's not the second coming of boxing jesus like his fanboys claim.

and yeah, he got too much credit for beating (most likely while on PEDs) a Wlad who was past prime and dealing with marital problems due to his then crazy, post-partum depression wife

that been said, Fury is still the best active HW..Joshua is a chinless stiff who got manhandled by a fat blob and fought like a totally scared ***** in the rematch.


If beating Chisora is your measure of greatness, you forgot to mention that Usyk was a bloated cruiserweight in his very first fight at HW, and Vitali was past prime, with one foot on retirement and injured his arm early during the fight, and still beat Chisora very handily

The Klitschkos were the last true GREAT hws, Fury isn't but he's at least better than the current crop of chumps

I personally think the best version of fury beats the best version of Wlad Klitschko.

I just think Tyson Fury is all wrong for Wlad, stylistically. Wlad’s jab and grab style doesn’t work on someone like Fury who is bigger and has more tools.


I don’t even put Vitali in that bracket. Who are his to best wins really?

He dined out and giving an old Lennox Lewis had to fight for a few rounds, before getting his face smashed in and stopped.

Also quit on his stool against Byrd, The same injury plenty of fighters have carried on with and he asked to be pulled out.

Vitali wouldn’t have the minerals to beat Fury, no quitter beats Fury. You can’t beat him if you’re mentally weak.,Different levels too. Vitali never beat any top fighters.

[abracada]

Fury has NEVER shown me anything in the ring that fits how people describe him and I've been watching him since 2009. He's sloppy, clumsy and he hits like a woman.

And AJ also didn't help with the Ruiz fight.

I honestly don't even think Fury would last 7 rds in the ring with AJ - he'll either get sparked or he's going to quit in his corner. The bubble would be busted soon.

That’s what people said when AJ faced Ruiz!

[Dakuwaqa]

I believe stylistically - if AJ doesn’t come into the ring carrying too much muscles like he did against Wlad, Takam and Ruiz 1 - he eight sparks Fury or outpoint him with a couple of knock downs.

Fury doesn’t throw uppercut which is Whyte’s kryptonite...so I’d favour Whyte in an upset by KO.

I also think Usyk can beat Fury due to his work rate. Fury doesn’t hit that hard and Usyk does everything better than Fury and he’s quicker by a mile. And let’s be honest - Fury struggles against small guys that can move.

As much as I AJ I can't see him beating Fury. AJ is at his best in mid-range where he can throw nice combos. At long range he's a little telegraphed and predictable. I can see him having a real hard time connecting with enough regularity to KO fury. I also worry about his gas tank in a gruelling fight.

Whyte is actually a tough fight for Fury.

Are you from N/S/E/W Ldn?

[PRINCEKOOL]

As much as I AJ I can't see him beating Fury. AJ is at his best in mid-range where he can throw nice combos. At long range he's a little telegraphed and predictable. I can see him having a real hard time connecting with enough regularity to KO fury. I also worry about his gas tank in a gruelling fight.

Whyte is actually a tough fight for Fury.

Are you from N/S/E/W Ldn?

Tyson Fury is fatigued in all of his fights, neither Joshua or Fury has Evander Holyfield levels of endurance etc

Fury's endurance is good, but it is not off the charts.

Goodness, I was watching David Price earlier on today and? If only he had the endurance level of Fury or Joshua 'Most of his fights would of been a lot easier'.

I have always been puzzled as to why his endurance gave him so many issues, it was not down to lack of dedication ether etc

[Dakuwaqa]

Tyson Fury is fatigued in all of his fights, neither Joshua or Fury has Evander Holyfield levels of endurance etc

Fury's endurance is good, but it is not off the charts.

Goodness, I was watching David Price earlier on today and? If only he had the endurance level of Fury or Joshua 'Most of his fights would of been a lot easier'.

I have always been puzzled as to why his endurance gave him so many issues, it was not down to lack of dedication ether etc

I think his nerves just drains his energy. Apparently in sparring he doesn't have these same issues