Face it, Spence don't want that Bud Crawford smoke

[DaNeutral.]

Ok, your opinion. Got it. Why don't you call Massa Bob and Terence, and tell them to accept the 60/40 then, so your opinion can be validated?

Unlike you, I'm talking facts though. One dude said he'd want 60/40 based on the numbers, but he's willing to negotiate. The other dude says he wants 60/40 his way, or the fight ain't happening.

And IN YOUR OPINION, the first guy's ducking...got it. Sensible guy.




Moving right along....

Both guys have said 60-40 or no fight. That is fact not my opinion. Also Spence says he has achieved more than Crawford and that is factually wrong, very wrong.

Massa Bob is nearly as bad as massa Al. Can't stand either of them. But my opinion is over the past few years it is Spence who don't want that smoke and that opinion is based on the FACTS that Spence wouldnt fight until Bud had a belt and so Bud got a belt then Spence wouldn't fight unless he crossed the street and then Spence said Bud was being put right to the back of some queue and even now he's putting distance between them.

And I've taken in to account what both fighters have had to say, I'm a bit annoyed that Bud wants 60% cuz in my opinion he isn't worth it but that aside all the negativity towards this match up over 2 years of interviews and statements has come from Spence.

Bud wants it but isn't being cometely realistic, Spence just don't want it.

[F l i c k e r]

I actually believe Spence deserves the higher split based on his drawing power being higher than Crawford and him having more world titles than Crawford at 147.

Its just a shame that you are one of those that argued the complete opposite when it came to Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder, when it was Wilder and AJ none of that mattered. 180 degree turn on that narrative I've noticed from PBC fans.

Both AJ and Wilder were doing nothing however.

It wasn't a conversation of Tyson Fury, who actually had accomplishments in the division. Who beat Klitschko. It was two guys who liked to beat up on cans their whole life. Those dudes had to do 50-50. Their body of work in the division was the same.

But I don't believe I spoke anything about money when it came to those two, I favored AJ over Wilder (until I saw AJ unable to deal with sluggers) but that's it.

Crawford-Spence will have to be 50-50 to get done because of their egos. But realistically, on body of work, Spence with potentially 3 belts and a resume of top 10 welters beaten should get a bigger cut, objectively, over Crawford with 1 belt and less than stellar 147 resume.

It's not even a case like Pacquiao coming up beating MAB, Morales, Marquez, ODLH and Hatton before fighting the top WWs and earning significantly more than the top WWs either.

If Crawford had that on his resume. It'd be different, even if Spence had a better 147 resume.

But the one difference between you and I is that you are calling Spence a fraud, while I am giving Crawford respect while being honest about his less than stellar resume at 147.

[Death_Adder]

Neither want each other. Both looking for that Pacquiao payday. Thurman already cashed out, both these clowns looking to do the same.

Chase money, not greatness, the Gayweather way.

[Clegg]

Agreed and it's a shame. We'll see how things work out, the fight is overdue but he still has time. Not saying Crawford should have to leave TR to make the fight happen but it looks like it he might and that would change things

[maguirre]

Spence is leaving it all to his uncle Al. As if Haymon is the one fighting.

[Bandman]

Jermall clearly beat Dervenchenko but it was far from master class.

Derevychenko was robbed vs GGG.

[FinitoxDinamita]

Crawford is a way better fighter than Spence. How can people not see this.

Crawford wins

[DaNeutral.]

Both AJ and Wilder were doing nothing however.

It wasn't a conversation of Tyson Fury, who actually had accomplishments in the division. Who beat Klitschko. It was two guys who liked to beat up on cans their whole life. Those dudes had to do 50-50. Their body of work in the division was the same.

But I don't believe I spoke anything about money when it came to those two, I favored AJ over Wilder (until I saw AJ unable to deal with sluggers) but that's it.

Crawford-Spence will have to be 50-50 to get done because of their egos. But realistically, on body of work, Spence with potentially 3 belts and a resume of top 10 welters beaten should get a bigger cut, objectively, over Crawford with 1 belt and less than stellar 147 resume.

It's not even a case like Pacquiao coming up beating MAB, Morales, Marquez, ODLH and Hatton before fighting the top WWs and earning significantly more than the top WWs either.

If Crawford had that on his resume. It'd be different, even if Spence had a better 147 resume.

But the one difference between you and I is that you are calling Spence a fraud, while I am giving Crawford respect while being honest about his less than stellar resume at 147.

Where have I ever called Spence a fraud? And Joshua was doing nothing? Breaking box office records is nothing? Collecting all biit one of the belts nothing? Becoming the 2nd biggest earner in the sport nothing? It's only nothing when you want to say that to fit in to an agenda, if your honest he was doing alot.

[Monzon99]

You can't debate with morons like flicker. no matter what because of the color of his skin he will support haymon and spence because of the color of their skin.

to say AJ did nothing is criminally ****** and innacurate. Let this *** clown keep convincing himself it's all Bud and Arum's fault.

[#1PaperChamp]

Jermell rematched Harrison and got his belt back

Harrison won close fight 1st time

Harrison was winning 2nd fight more clearly (although "Lions" judging somehow had Jermell ahead) before stoppage

Jermell wont give Harrison the rematch that Harrison gave him