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  • #1PaperChamp
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bandman
    so Jermell is now ducking Harrison? a guy he KO'd and was robbed against?
    Jermell was robbed against Harrison on a Lions Only promotion card. The real robbery was how every judge had Jermell ahead at time of KO against Harrison. That was a joke.

    Originally posted by Bandman
    and Jermall don't fight nobody? he just beat the guy who was robbed against GGG.

    try another angle
    Jermall was offered a Canelo fight previously and dodged, offered a Jacobs fight and dodged, and never rematched Korobov.

    The Julian Wiliams win gets worse with every fight as JRock shows his limitations.

    Jermall clearly beat Dervenchenko but it was far from master class.

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      #42
      Originally posted by #1PaperChamp
      Pretty much how I see it too. If Spence loses the whole PBC project failed.

      Thats also why Jermell isnt rematching Harrisom and why Jermall dont fight nobody
      Jermell rematched Harrison and got his belt back

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        #43
        We’re seeing these fighters undergarments too often. I never remember my father talking about purse splits back in his day. We shouldn’t know all of this information about splits and the inner workings of negotiations, it really seems like a ploy to allow things to fall through.

        I didn’t hear about Canelo smith negotiations, boom fights done. Didn’t hear about Crawford brook negotiations, boom fights done. I heard about Lopez Loma negotiations, then when things died down, boom fights done. I always heard about Joshua wilder negotiations tho

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        • F l i c k e r
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          #44
          I don't know why people act goofy when it comes to this topic.

          Spence literally said, on camera and to Crawford's face, he is going to take all the other belts FIRST and then fight Crawford.

          Even Crawford said "you're smart.... but not that smart."

          Yet people are still acting dazed and confused, saying "Spence doesn't want Crawford."

          He's literally stated what he was going to do and so far, he has not deviated from his words at all.

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          • Gamer30168
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            #45
            I dont know what's on either man's mind but both of them should be trying to get this fight made. The fans want it. This might be the most desirable matchup that can be made in boxing today. Both men need this victory in order to elevate their status and for their legacy. A Crawford win over Spence could help him go from "very good" to "elite". A Spence victory would go a long ways towards the same. Both fighters could possibly become household names with a victory in a fight like this. The winner becomes number #1 p4p

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              #46
              Originally posted by Monzon99
              Spence first demanded 6040 vs Bud earlier this week (he is already making his duck moves because he knows Haymon has Garcia rigged to play soft). So then wisely Bud said he is demanding 6040 vs spence. Of course he has to do that so both compromise to the fair 5050 everybody knows is this is a 5050 fight.
              Bud will compromise and say Ok let's do 5050 but for sure Spence the fraud pretender, will not and keep blocking the fight with 6040 demands to kill the fight he really does not want.
              That's goofy.

              Take away the names and just look at what each fighter has done in the division and you will see who actually deserves more than 50-50.

              No Name Fighter: IBF champion (w), WBA (regular) champion (w), IBF mandatory ww (w), top 10 ww (w), WBC champion (w), next fight is a top 10 ww (tbd).

              No Name Fighter: WBO champion (w), outside top 10 ww (w), outside to 10 ww (w), outside top 10 ww (w), outside top 10 ww (w)


              Who would actually get the higher split OBJECTIVELY?
              The guy who is actually fighting top fighters and winning, that's who.

              That's Crawford's fault, plain and simple. He's choosing nabf title holders instead of actual competition. That's on him and he has given himself no leverage in money talks. Blame Top Rank if you want but it doesn't matter, he still agreed to fight these nobodies.

              However, as I am generally unbiased, I will say, to make Spence-Crawford happen, they will most likely have to agree to 50-50 because of egos.

              Even if OBJECTIVELY, one fighter does have a bigger claim to majority of the purse split.

              But I already knew this fight would get held up over money because 1 man was clearly doing nothing but taking easy fights. While the other was beating legitimate boxers while collecting belts.

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              • FLY TY
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                #47
                Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                Spence said he would need a 60-40 split. If Bud accepted that then a brand new road block would come up from Spence.

                Sounds like I'm going in on him, I'm actually a fan of Spence, but it really is just how it looks and how it sounds.

                He just don't want that smoke at all.
                Spoken like a true casual who only watches boxing when a big fight is coming up, or when you get a notification on your phone...

                Even worse, don't claim to be a fan of a fighter, as if it adds credibility to your ignorant view points.

                Spence was asked whether he'd want 60-40, and he responded, "based on the numbers, yeah." Crawford has done 2 ppvs which COMBINED, haven't equaled HALF of one of Spence's. Anybody who argues that is a complete idiot.

                But what Spence also said, that nobody mentions, is that it's about "sitting down at the table and negotiating."

                I've only heard one dude in the last week say the fight isn't happening, and it wasn't Errol. Direct your misinformation somewhere else.
                Last edited by FLY TY; 11-22-2020, 11:56 AM.

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                • DaNeutral.
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by FLY TY
                  Spoken like a true casual who only watches boxing when a big fight is coming up, or when you get a notification on your phone...

                  Even worse, don't claim to be a fan of a fighter, as if it adds credibility to your ignorant view points.

                  Spence was asked whether he'd want 60-40, and he responded, "based on the numbers, yeah." Crawford has done 2 ppvs which COMBINED, haven't equaled HALF of one of Spence's. Anybody who argues that is a complete idiot.

                  But what Spence also said, that nobody mentions, is that it's about "sitting down at the table and negotiating."

                  I've only heard one dude in the last week say the fight isn't happening, and it wasn't Errol. Direct your misinformation somewhere else.
                  Misinformation? What misinformation? I've given my OPINION and my opinion is Spence doesn't want to fight Crawford and if Crawford accepted 60/40 that would not get Spence in the ring. Spence and master Al know Crawford beats him and takes his belts, IN MY OPINION.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                    That's goofy.

                    Take away the names and just look at what each fighter has done in the division and you will see who actually deserves more than 50-50.

                    No Name Fighter: IBF champion (w), WBA (regular) champion (w), IBF mandatory ww (w), top 10 ww (w), WBC champion (w), next fight is a top 10 ww (tbd).

                    No Name Fighter: WBO champion (w), outside top 10 ww (w), outside to 10 ww (w), outside top 10 ww (w), outside top 10 ww (w)


                    Who would actually get the higher split OBJECTIVELY?
                    The guy who is actually fighting top fighters and winning, that's who.

                    That's Crawford's fault, plain and simple. He's choosing nabf title holders instead of actual competition. That's on him and he has given himself no leverage in money talks. Blame Top Rank if you want but it doesn't matter, he still agreed to fight these nobodies.

                    However, as I am generally unbiased, I will say, to make Spence-Crawford happen, they will most likely have to agree to 50-50 because of egos.

                    Even if OBJECTIVELY, one fighter does have a bigger claim to majority of the purse split.

                    But I already knew this fight would get held up over money because 1 man was clearly doing nothing but taking easy fights. While the other was beating legitimate boxers while collecting belts.
                    I actually believe Spence deserves the higher split based on his drawing power being higher than Crawford and him having more world titles than Crawford at 147.

                    Its just a shame that you are one of those that argued the complete opposite when it came to Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder, when it was Wilder and AJ none of that mattered. 180 degree turn on that narrative I've noticed from PBC fans.

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                    • FLY TY
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                      Misinformation? What misinformation? I've given my OPINION and my opinion is Spence doesn't want to fight Crawford and if Crawford accepted 60/40 that would not get Spence in the ring. Spence and master Al know Crawford beats him and takes his belts, IN MY OPINION.
                      Ok, your opinion. Got it. Why don't you call Massa Bob and Terence, and tell them to accept the 60/40 then, so your opinion can be validated?

                      Unlike you, I'm talking facts though. One dude said he'd want 60/40 based on the numbers, but he's willing to negotiate. The other dude says he wants 60/40 his way, or the fight ain't happening.

                      And IN YOUR OPINION, the first guy's ducking...got it. Sensible guy.




                      Moving right along....

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