Comments Thread For: Joe Joyce: I'm Insulted With Bookmaker Odds, Treating Me Like a Journeyman

[Caught Square]

Based on what? I really don't understand the hype behind Dubois. Yes he looks good against poor opponents, but that's all we know about him.

He has never been tested at a decent level and until you see a fighter fight decent opponents, you never know where there limitations lie.

I have nothing against Dubois at all and see him as a potential world class fighter but he hasn't proven himself yet.

Joyce has a world class amateur record and is also unbeaten as a pro. He has a better record and is more experienced than Dubois. He ought to be favourite really.

I'm looking forward to this, it's the first real test for either as a pro and should answer a few questions.

It’s not even hyping up Dubois I just don’t rate Joyce at all and when comparing him to Dubois I think he’s inferior in pretty much every respect.

If he lasts the distance then I suppose he has an incredible chin but regardless he’s just too easy to hit and far too slow, I think he’s the perfect opponent to make Dubois look good.

Also when it comes to resumes as a pro and experience there’s not even a massive difference, Joyce has an edge with the Jennings fight and he looked poor anyway. Also looked like a dear in headlights being hit by repeated overhand rights in the 1st round against a 270 lbs And old Stiverne.

Gorman was a good win for Dubois at this stage of his career.

[vitali1999]

Before Bowe won the title, Lewis people made him several offers. This fight is our Lewis vs Bowe. Hats off to Doubios and Joyce for fighting each other while still rising contenders.

[moltres.]

joyce throwing punches from today for them to land next week.

[deathofaclown]

The odds are wide when you consider that Dubois hasn’t really beaten anyone of note. The Gorman win was decent but Gorman is probably only ever going to win a British title at best, and even that would largely depend on opposition.

Then again, even the recognisable names Joyce has fought were faded versions, so I’m not even sure how much you can take from it.

I guess the odds are the way they are because of hype and potential.

I’m picking Joyce. As basic as he can look, I still think he could be a very difficult guy to beat unless you are operating on really good level. I get the feeling being in the ring with him is much different to looking from the outside.

[Oshio]

Of course....... DDD is the up-and-comer and Joe Joyce is basically the same level at 35.

Just annoyed me how Joyce was saying he was a veteran and his manager (Sam Jones) was saying he fought world-class opposition in Jennings.

Seems a good 50/50 fight to me, can see both winning but think Joyce will eat that jab and right hand.

This is a kindergarten intellection and a typical example of how not to read boxing. So because Ali, George, Holyfield, Lennox, Wladimir and other ATGs lost one fight before entering another reduces their greatness? Come on man

[Vinnykin]

This is a kindergarten intellection and a typical example of how not to read boxing. So because Ali, George, Holyfield, Lennox, Wladimir and other ATGs lost one fight before entering another reduces their greatness? Come on man

You replying to the right person?

Not sure what you are implying here? I never made any such accusation about ATG's losing fights and it reducing their greatness.

[Vinnykin]

The odds are wide when you consider that Dubois hasn’t really beaten anyone of note. The Gorman win was decent but Gorman is probably only ever going to win a British title at best, and even that would largely depend on opposition.

Then again, even the recognisable names Joyce has fought were faded versions, so I’m not even sure how much you can take from it.

I guess the odds are the way they are because of hype and potential.

I’m picking Joyce. As basic as he can look, I still think he could be a very difficult guy to beat unless you are operating on really good level. I get the feeling being in the ring with him is much different to looking from the outside.

Dubois should not be an overwhelming favourite, but it's not hard to see why people think he will land on Joyce and stop him.

Conversely, It's not hard to see why people think Joyce will overwhelm Dubois over the 12 rounds.

Has the makings of a good fight........ my reasoning for thinking Dubois will win is he is faster and has that ramrod jab to stop Joyce from pressuring him. Joyce's strength and pressure that he relies on will be taken away in the first two rounds after eating a few jabs and counters.

[joe strong]

Dubois is untested. Not completely sold on him yet & Joyce is 35 & too old to be a novice in the pro ranks. Not sure who to pick. I am curious to see if Dubois turns into a contender or another hype job that gets exposed when actually stepping up like David Price & Dimitrenko...

[REDEEMER]

joyce throwing punches from today for them to land next week.

You guys need new material. Timing beats speed most the time and pressure also smothers faster mid range guys . Joyce has all the important advantages even his corner .

Only Joyce can lose the fight if he makes an early mistake and dips low into a right hand . Joyce is to slow but no one even Fury in the ring manages to avoid shots so that is a farce when DDD isn’t much of a explosive puncher unless he has a stationary guy usually on the ropes .

[Earl-Hickey]

This could be a David Price vs Thompson situation