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  • #61
    Originally posted by SteveM View Post
    "I'm not the kind of person to put my business in the streets" .... and then proceeds to do just that.
    The thing is, Crawford is all bark.

    This guy basically said he won't bash his promoter despite his promoter telling the truth and bashing him publicly.

    Instead, he'll defend Arum to the death and say "he tried" - he didn't try for YOU.

    Here's the thing. I don't think it's Arum. I don't think it's Crawford.

    I think it's BoMac.

    I firmly believe BoMac is the main reason fights aren't getting done correctly.


    Why else would Spence have that out there as his only condition?

    Spence must have talked to Swift and Thurman and got the scoop and was like nope, this dude's not in it.


    So the smart thing is to get rid of BoMac as far as negotiating. Crawford won't do that - he said it. Then he won't get the fights because I said it before: Al Haymon is not going to put up with that BS, either.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Mister Wolf View Post
      You might want to take a look at Fury's numbers for Shwartz and Wallin.
      Gate of $999,722.50 for Wallin.

      Crawford pulled less than that for Kavaliauskas.

      Now, since you know what the deal is, how about we match the LARGEST against the LARGEST, shall we?

      Compare numbers for Tyson Fury vs. Wilder 2 against Crawford vs. Kell Brook and come back to me.

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      • #63
        Crawford went right back to kissing Bob's ass once he remembered he's still under contract with him for another year.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by whollisboxing View Post
          Well how many times would they fight each other in this hypothetical five-year period when all of them have already fought each other once?
          Fights that have taken place

          Danny Garcia vs Keith Thurman
          Danny Garcia vs Shawn Porter
          Errol Spence vs Shawn Porter
          Errol Spence vs Mikey Garica
          Jessie Vargas vs Manny Pacquaio
          Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
          Josesito Lopez vs Jessie Vargas
          Josesito Lopez vs Keith Thurman
          Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter
          Manny Pacquaio vs Keith Thurman
          Shawn Porter vs Yordenis Ugas

          Fights that haven't taken place

          Danny Garcia vs Errol Spence
          Danny Garcia vs Manny Pacquaio
          Danny Garcia vs Mikey Garcia
          Danny Garcia vs Yordenis Ugas
          Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman
          Errol Spence vs Manny Pacquaio
          Errol Spence vs Yordenis Ugas
          Keith Thurman vs Mikey Garcia
          Keith Thurman vs Yordenis Ugas
          Manny Pacquaio vs Mikey Garcia
          Manny Pacquaio vs Shawn Porter
          Manny Pacquaio vs Yordenis Ugas
          Mikey Garcia vs Shawn Porter
          Mikey Garcia vs Yordenis Ugas
          Shawn Porter vs Mikey Garcia

          Now throw in some Tune ups and New Names which we will represent with Josesito Lopez, Jessie Vargas, Regis Prograis

          Danny Garcia vs Jessie Vargas
          Danny Garcia vs Josesito Lopez
          Danny Garcia vs Regis Prograis
          Errol Spence vs Jessie Vargas
          Errol Spence vs Josesito Lopez
          Errol Spence vs Regis Prograis
          Keith Thurman vs Jessie Vargas
          Keith Thurman vs Regis Prograis
          Manny Pacquaio vs Josesito Lopez
          Manny Pacquaio vs Regis Prograis
          Mikey Garcia vs Josesito Lopez
          Mikey Garcia vs Regis Prograis
          Regis Prograis vs Jessie Vargas
          Regis Prograis vs Josesito Lopez
          Shawn Porter vs Jessie Vargas
          Shawn Porter vs Josesito Lopez
          Shawn Porter vs Regis Prograis
          Yordenis Ugas vs Jessie Vargas
          Yordenis Ugas vs Josesito Lopez
          Yordenis Ugas vs Regis Prograis


          Now Throw in the Rematches

          Danny Garcia vs Keith Thurman 2
          Danny Garcia vs Shawn Porter 2
          Errol Spence vs Shawn Porter 2
          Errol Spence vs Mikey Garica 2
          Jessie Vargas vs Manny Pacquaio 2
          Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia 2
          Josesito Lopez vs Jessie Vargas 2
          Josesito Lopez vs Keith Thurman 2
          Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter 2
          Manny Pacquaio vs Keith Thurman 2
          Shawn Porter vs Yordenis Ugas 2


          So In Conclusion Im sure you can see theirs plenty of action to go around on the PBC side.
          Last edited by TheBoxGod; 11-21-2020, 12:58 PM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
            They're all dumpster belts. Its the champ that makes the belt. Why is the WBO Welterweight title a garbage belt now when two champs ago Pacquao had it?
            The WBO has always been a dumpster belt. It wasn't truly acknowledged by all organizations until '07. Pac-Man made the belt, the belt didn't make him.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by PBR Streetgang View Post
              Aren't they all though?
              They are, but the WBO is the Khole Kardashian of belts.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Unidentified View Post
                The WBO has always been a dumpster belt. It wasn't truly acknowledged by all organizations until '07. Pac-Man made the belt, the belt didn't make him.
                It was recognized in 2004. Basically right after Oscar won it from Sturm. So technically Oscar made the belt.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                  It was recognized in 2004. Basically right after Oscar won it from Sturm. So technically Oscar made the belt.
                  I meant recognized by all organizations, but you kinda said what I'm trying to get at which is the WBO belt has known to be a waste of time unless its held by a former, well-known champ. De la Hoya would've still been a legend if he never won that belt, and the same can be said for Pac-Man. Nobody becomes a legend by winning the WBO belt. Alot of people have dumped it shortly after winning it.
                  Last edited by Unidentified; 11-21-2020, 01:40 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Unidentified View Post
                    I meant recognized by all organizations, but you kinda said what I'm trying to get at which is the WBO belt has known to be a waste of time unless its held by a former, well-known champ. De la Hoya would've still been a legend if he never won that belt, and the same can be said for Pac-Man. Nobody becomes a legend by winning the WBO belt. Alot of people have dumped it shortly after winning it.
                    They gain recognition when the other orgs decide to recognize it. That’s all. Had nothing to do with Oscar; I think they made the decision to do it right before the Sturm/Oscar fight when sturm was champ. The other two recognized them earlier and were waiting on the WBC to make it official

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                      They gain recognition when the other orgs decide to recognize it. That’s all. Had nothing to do with Oscar; I think they made the decision to do it right before the Sturm/Oscar fight when sturm was champ. The other two recognized them earlier and were waiting on the WBC to make it official
                      I think you're misunderstanding what I'm trying to say, but it's no big deal.

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