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  • I don't think anyone should blame Bud or Spence for that fight not being made. Another poster made an earlier point about Bob not letting the WBO belt leave TR. THERE is the issue from both promotional companies. PBC nor TR want to let their share of the welterweight belts go. Hence we get these round robin style fights from PBC when Spence is/was the cream of the crop there. Should Crawford and Spence fight and Crawford win,there go all of the belts from PBC to TR with exception to Manny's WBA. We know if Bob controls them all he will keep them in house just like PBC is doing now.

    As long as PBC controls three of the four major belts they are not concerned with the WBO. That is why Crawford is calling Manny out. To level the playing field in negotiations with Spence. A Craw - Pac fight would do decent PPV numbers. Should Crawford win that fight(no 100% guarantee), he too would have two belts and higher PPV numbers to bring to the table. That would ensure a 50/50 with Spence. As it now stands,with Spence unified,he does deserve a larger slice of revenue. Has nothing to do with PPV #s. No matter who is to blame,Bud has had nowhere near the opponents Spence has to compare their PPV #s. With a top name opponent Bud would do good numbers also. There just isn't anyone on his side of the street to bring those numbers in.

    As far as a Porter fight,I'd rather watch paint dry. His style is boring to me and he brings no power. He has improved SOME in the last couple years. However,a Craw Porter fight would likely do 150-200 ppv buys. Possibly even cross the 200 mark. That is the one reason Craw should fight him.Otherwise he brings nothing to the table.

    IF Craw does cross over to PBC,do not expect the Spence fight to happen any sooner. Uncle Al will bring him into the fold with at least one introductory/showcase. Then a step up,then more blah blah blah. I don't see Craw getting Spence for a while if at all. It is a crying shame for boxing fans. It is the WW super fight for our generation. Anything else boxing puts on the table in that weight class is just fluff.

    I will gladly eat these words should Spence Craw actually mix it up in the ring in the next year.No matter how it gets done,it is THE fight I want to see more than any in boxing. Let's all keep our fingers crossed. Happy and safe Thanksgiving to everyone.
    Last edited by Gunitsmith; 11-20-2020, 01:39 AM.

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    • Sry Bud but he doesn't want you to make money either.

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      • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
        The point is PBC fighters have been willing and able to fight Crawford. They would have given him better comp than what he has been fighting instead.
        I'm sorry but everything I've read or heard from these guys says different, Ugas excepted.

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        • Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan View Post
          I know Spence took those numbers from Mikey, but let’s face the truth now. Spence is now a draw, Crawford is still not yet. 60-40 is even generous at this point
          Spence is a draw only with the right dance partner. He'd be an underdog vs. Bud. That makes Bud worthy of purse parity at the very least. You guys have to stop acting like Errol is the welterweight version of the mid 90s Mike Tyson. He's not. He goes deep into fights vs. top level fighter. Crawford carries no one and never has. The only fight we can say he carried someone is Postol, but Viktor is a very sly veteran.

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          • Can't disagree with a single letter of what Bud says here

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            • Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
              I dont understand why nobody likes Terence Crawford.
              I like him.

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              • Originally posted by Cobra Curry View Post
                I'm sorry but everything I've read or heard from these guys says different, Ugas excepted.
                Ugas and Porter.

                And Keith Thurman too.

                Thurman to Crawford: Send The Contract, Let Me Post It On IG And Sign It Live
                https://www.boxingscene.com/thurman-...t-live--151025

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                • Originally posted by BlackR0bbb View Post
                  Spence is a draw only with the right dance partner. He'd be an underdog vs. Bud. That makes Bud worthy of purse parity at the very least. You guys have to stop acting like Errol is the welterweight version of the mid 90s Mike Tyson. He's not. He goes deep into fights vs. top level fighter. Crawford carries no one and never has. The only fight we can say he carried someone is Postol, but Viktor is a very sly veteran.
                  That's not how it works.

                  For a PPV fight the purse split has traditionally been based on proven PPV numbers and history.

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                  • Bud needs to go the Mickey Garcia/Pac's route. One fight deal at a time highest bidder. Like I said Pac's vs Bud in Dubai. With Pacquiao Promotions. Just to show I'm not the bad guy some other big promoter can co produce/promote. Massive PPV. Imagine if Bud can knock off Pac's?

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                    • Originally posted by Doubledagger View Post
                      Horn was actuaĺly ranked in the top five when Crawford fought. Horn had alsob beaten the man and therefore was the man to beat.

                      Finally, Horn actually called out every single one of the pbc welterweights repeatedly but none of them repied, even Spence.

                      The devil is in the details of course and Arum wouldn’t have allowed those fights to happen anyway but those are the facts.
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                      Prior to Horn fighting PAC, had you ever heard of him? Be honest man!
                      Nobody knew the guy. Neither did we know of Algieri.

                      Two, Horn did not beat PAC and I’m not even a Pac-Man fan. So, of course he had a belt and had to be in the top 5. Where is he now? Nobody cares.

                      Beating Horn meant nothing other than collecting a belt. Period.

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