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  • #21
    Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
    Never amounted to much in their lives? I believe being the fathers of world champions, keeping them from the streets and being steady role models in their lives amounts to more than most accomplish in their life times. It’s akin to homeschooling a child. It’s a selfless act and one in which a parent should be highly commended for.

    Do you understand the amount of time, patience, discipline and fortitude that goes into being both a father and a boxing trainer to the point of world champion entails? They are the primary reason FOR THEIR SON’s CAREERS. Talking crap is part of the game. The more they talk crap the less their sons have to and they can focus on ring business. Please save me the never amounted to much. They did everything that’s ever asked of a father and that’s remain in their lives through childhood and into adulthood
    Boxingfanatic75 you do make a very good argument for the 3 fathers of champions. I respect your well thought out explanation in the defense of Guerrero Sr, Garcia Sr, and Lopez Sr. That is your opinion on this subject, but there are others who view this in another way. I believe that Danny Garcia, Roberto Guerrero Jr, and Teofimo Lopez, would have all become champions with, or without, their fathers influencing them. Danny became a champion of though his father spent years in jail, for drugs. What kind of positive influence do you think that had on a young Danny? I did see Teofimo break down in front of the cameras leading up to the Lomachenko fight. It was alarming to see him lament about his fractured relationship with his father. What I can say is that they are just as nasty, if not even more so than Danny's father. The sons don't need their fathers to act like juvenile delinquents for them to fill the seats of an arena. Their sons are, or were the best in the business. They let their hands do the talking for them in the ring just like true champions, are supposed to. I'm sure that the sons love their fathers, and they are loyal to them, but I can almost see Teofimo walking away from his fathers overbearing dominance. Lopez, and Garcia are at the top of their game, while Guerrero is on his way to retirement. That's just my opinion, time will tell exactly how it all plays out.
    Last edited by Boricua181; 11-19-2020, 08:53 AM. Reason: Made one correction to my reply.

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    • #22
      Im 100% sure Verdejo will beat Nakatani no matter if is a KO or UD.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
        Also Verdejo doesn't look like he can handle pressure, which Nakitani brings
        It did appear as if Verdejo doesn't handle pressure well, but he also was dealing with outside pressure. He was trying to get out of a perpetual contract with his former manager. That can be a real distracting issue when your fighting, but you aren't fully concentrating on your fight. Let's see how well he does now with a new a manger, and team. If he concentrates on his career, and stops hanging out he can become special in the sport of boxing. Like everything else time will tell, we just have to wait, and see.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
          Also Verdejo doesn't look like he can handle pressure, which Nakitani brings
          If Nakatani sustains the pressure I can see Verdejo fold. Verdejo simply does not go to a plan B.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
            Still salty from the Loma loss I see.

            I get it..I really do
            Na. I gave Lopez the credit he deserves for that win. No excuses. If you think his father is a sane man then I guess birds of a feather. Garcia's dad has at least calmed down recently.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Boricua181 View Post
              Your correct it was a while ago, approximately 1 year, and 4 months ago. What I was eluding to was that brain injuries are so dangerous to one's health that I don't believe anyone really really recovers from those injuries. The main reason for my comment on that subject, was my concern for Nakatani's health, and well being. If he still has lingering brain damage, continuing his boxing career can be fatal, especially if your next opponent is Felix Verdejo. That's basically what I was saying, even though my time line was off, the concern remains the same.
              If Nakatani honestly had any brain injury from the Lopez fight no doctor in the world would clear him to fight again. Where are you getting this idea that he had any sort of brain injury?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
                Never amounted to much in their lives? I believe being the fathers of world champions, keeping them from the streets and being steady role models in their lives amounts to more than most accomplish in their life times. It’s akin to homeschooling a child. It’s a selfless act and one in which a parent should be highly commended for.

                Do you understand the amount of time, patience, discipline and fortitude that goes into being both a father and a boxing trainer to the point of world champion entails? They are the primary reason FOR THEIR SON’s CAREERS. Talking crap is part of the game. The more they talk crap the less their sons have to and they can focus on ring business. Please save me the never amounted to much. They did everything that’s ever asked of a father and that’s remain in their lives through childhood and into adulthood
                If you think that Lopez's father or Garcia's father is a good role model then you must have come from a broken home. Have you not see the lead up promo videos of Lopez talking about his father? It is apparent that there is a rift between them and there are issues. I do agree that they did a good job staying in their kids life but really should that not be expected? Why are we praising fathers for remaining relevant in a childs life? That should be the norm not the exception. Garcia and Lopez's father's have taught them how to hate and that is no way to raise a human being. Why go around the world hating everything for no reason?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Boricua181 View Post
                  Boxingfanatic75 you do make a very good argument for the 3 fathers of champions. I respect your well thought out explanation in the defense of Guerrero Sr, Garcia Sr, and Lopez Sr. That is your opinion on this subject, but there are others who view this in another way. I believe that Danny Garcia, Roberto Guerrero Jr, and Teofimo Lopez, would have all become champions with, or without, their fathers influencing them. Danny became a champion of though his father spent years in jail, for drugs. What kind of positive influence do you think that had on a young Danny? I did see Teofimo break down in front of the cameras leading up to the Lomachenko fight. It was alarming to see him lament about his fractured relationship with his father. What I can say is that they are just as nasty, if not even more so than Danny's father. The sons don't need their fathers to act like juvenile delinquents for them to fill the seats of an arena. Their sons are, or were the best in the business. They let their hands do the talking for them in the ring just like true champions, are supposed to. I'm sure that the sons love their fathers, and they are loyal to them, but I can almost see Teofimo walking away from his fathers overbearing dominance. Lopez, and Garcia are at the top of their game, while Guerrero is on his way to retirement. That's just my opinion, time will tell exactly how it all plays out.
                  Good points as well. Green K

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Silver Spear View Post
                    If you think that Lopez's father or Garcia's father is a good role model then you must have come from a broken home. Have you not see the lead up promo videos of Lopez talking about his father? It is apparent that there is a rift between them and there are issues. I do agree that they did a good job staying in their kids life but really should that not be expected? Why are we praising fathers for remaining relevant in a childs life? That should be the norm not the exception. Garcia and Lopez's father's have taught them how to hate and that is no way to raise a human being. Why go around the world hating everything for no reason?
                    I am unaware of the intricacies within their relationships. I’ve read about it here but beyond that no videos. For Lopez I’m guessing the small breakdown is how hard he’s been ridden to succeed from childhood up to that point. Sometimes we father’s do that and the breakdown is the breaking point needed to let us know “oh boy I’ve gone too far.” Seeing your own child cry hits us like a ton of bricks too. I agree with your statement about being there. It’s funny we take for granted that common sense is to be there but for me it’s a step beyond that. In these instances it’s a lot more than that. It’s about being constantly involved in your child’s life too. These father’s aren’t just there but they’re involved in every aspect of their child’s life from fatherhood, to actively taking a role in their development far beyond childhood and into manhood. There are many broken homes and it’s good to see fathers this involved is all.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
                      I am unaware of the intricacies within their relationships. I’ve read about it here but beyond that no videos. For Lopez I’m guessing the small breakdown is how hard he’s been ridden to succeed from childhood up to that point. Sometimes we father’s do that and the breakdown is the breaking point needed to let us know “oh boy I’ve gone too far.” Seeing your own child cry hits us like a ton of bricks too. I agree with your statement about being there. It’s funny we take for granted that common sense is to be there but for me it’s a step beyond that. In these instances it’s a lot more than that. It’s about being constantly involved in your child’s life too. These father’s aren’t just there but they’re involved in every aspect of their child’s life from fatherhood, to actively taking a role in their development far beyond childhood and into manhood. There are many broken homes and it’s good to see fathers this involved is all.
                      I agree, there are far too many broken homes and it is directly linked to fatherless homes or fathers not spending enough time with his children. I do give credit for their fathers sticking through with their kids even through failures. I just wonder if it is done out of pride or out of love. Watching Lopez break down like that really hit home. I felt like I knew what he was going through and why. I had a father who would have me fight all his friends kids even if they were older than me. It was not until I was in my late teens that I finally had enough courage to stand up to his abuse. Hopefully Lopez is able to learn from this and not raise his kids this way.

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