better resume- anthony joshua or terence crawford?

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  • boliodogs
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    #31
    If AJ had never lost a fight I would say AJ. But Ruiz knocked him out so I vote for Crawford having the better record. I can't ignore a KO loss even with AJ winning the rematch easily.

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    • John Locke
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      #32
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      Considering people are saying “Crawford has beat nobody”.

      Can one of you explain why he’s beaten double the amount of world champions AJ has?

      Absolute lunacy...
      Easy. He's fought in multiple weight classes, been a pro longer, had more pro fights and still hasn't fought anyone above B level. WHO you beat is what matters. Indingi was a world champion and Povetkin was not. Who's the better fighter?

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        #33
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
        Considering people are saying “Crawford has beat nobody”.

        Can one of you explain why he’s beaten double the amount of world champions AJ has?

        Absolute lunacy...
        More than double. The WBA (Regular) belt doesn't count so Povetkin isn't a real champion.

        Champions beaten by Joshua:
        Wladimir Klitschko
        Charles Martin
        Andy Ruiz Jr
        Joseph Parker

        Champions beaten by Crawford:
        Kell Brook
        Amir Khan
        Jeff Horn
        Julius Indongo
        John Molina
        Viktor Postol
        Ray Beltran
        Yuriorkis Gamboa
        Ricky Burns

        Crawford is 9-0-0-0 vs world champions, Joshua is 4-1-0-0.

        Crawford is a 3 division titlist, a 2 division lineal champion, and a 1 division undisputed champion.

        Joshua has not won any lineal title nor been undisputed, though he is a 2X unified champion.

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          #34
          Originally posted by earl-hickey
          crawford, he's a slick black affacan ameecan so he wins by default
          ...........
          ............🙄

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            #35
            AJ fairly easily

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            • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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              #36
              Originally posted by famicommander
              More than double. The WBA (Regular) belt doesn't count so Povetkin isn't a real champion.

              Champions beaten by Joshua:
              Wladimir Klitschko
              Charles Martin
              Andy Ruiz Jr
              Joseph Parker

              Champions beaten by Crawford:
              Kell Brook
              Amir Khan
              Jeff Horn
              Julius Indongo
              John Molina
              Viktor Postol
              Ray Beltran
              Yuriorkis Gamboa
              Ricky Burns

              Crawford is 9-0-0-0 vs world champions, Joshua is 4-1-0-0.

              Crawford is a 3 division titlist, a 2 division lineal champion, and a 1 division undisputed champion.

              Joshua has not won any lineal title nor been undisputed, though he is a 2X unified champion.
              Exactly man.... John Molina never won a belt though.
              It’s 8-4.

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              • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                #37
                Originally posted by John Locke
                Easy. He's fought in multiple weight classes, been a pro longer, had more pro fights and still hasn't fought anyone above B level. WHO you beat is what matters. Indingi was a world champion and Povetkin was not. Who's the better fighter?
                See you’re twisting the narrative. I could do the exact same. Charles Martin was a world champion but Joseph Benavidez wasn’t. Who’s the better fighter?

                Those comparisons are irrelevant, A, B, C etc level is irrelevant too they are just opinions which can’t be proved or disproved. I’d firmly argue the prime Gamboa Crawford fought was far better than any fighter AJ has fought but that’s irrelevant as it’s an opinion.

                The facts prove Crawford has faced the better opposition. Beaten more world champions, won more titles, achieved more. There’s a reason Crawford is generally considered a top 3 P4P calibre fighter whilst AJ doesn’t even enter that discussion.

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                • John Locke
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                  See you’re twisting the narrative. I could do the exact same. Charles Martin was a world champion but Joseph Benavidez wasn’t. Who’s the better fighter?

                  Those comparisons are irrelevant, A, B, C etc level is irrelevant too they are just opinions which can’t be proved or disproved. I’d firmly argue the prime Gamboa Crawford fought was far better than any fighter AJ has fought but that’s irrelevant as it’s an opinion.

                  The facts prove Crawford has faced the better opposition. Beaten more world champions, won more titles, achieved more. There’s a reason Crawford is generally considered a top 3 P4P calibre fighter whilst AJ doesn’t even enter that discussion.
                  Nah i'm not, i'm not the one using 'world champion' status to determine the caliber of a fighter. We both know being a world champion isn't what it used to mean, anybody can grab a belt these days. Who you beat is what counts.

                  Some opinions hold more weight than others. Gamboa was a blown up featherweight man, he had no business fighting a man who is naturally 30+ pounds bigger. Talentwise he's a great fighter, but he's like half of Crawford's size.

                  What you're providing isn't facts it's opinion. Somebody being a world champion doesn't automatically make them bettet than a non-champion, as we've just established.

                  Joshua has beaten better fighters in about half the amount of fights.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                    Exactly man.... John Molina never won a belt though.
                    It’s 8-4.
                    Oh, you're right. I had him confused with Omar Figueroa in my head for some reason. Whoops.

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                    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by John Locke
                      Nah i'm not, i'm not the one using 'world champion' status to determine the caliber of a fighter. We both know being a world champion isn't what it used to mean, anybody can grab a belt these days. Who you beat is what counts.

                      Some opinions hold more weight than others. Gamboa was a blown up featherweight man, he had no business fighting a man who is naturally 30+ pounds bigger. Talentwise he's a great fighter, but he's like half of Crawford's size.

                      What you're providing isn't facts it's opinion. Somebody being a world champion doesn't automatically make them bettet than a non-champion, as we've just established.

                      Joshua has beaten better fighters in about half the amount of fights.
                      Being a world champion is a distinction and factual piece of evidence that proves a fighter is at a certain level. It’s highest singular accolade you can achieve as an active fighter. Every fighter who turns pro aspires to be a world champion.

                      If anyone can grab a belt these days, why didn’t Povetkin? What a contradiction...

                      The only piece of evidence you can offer for AJ having a better resume is your opinion which is backed by no factual evidence therefore is irrelevant.

                      Gamboa already had one fight at 135 when Crawford beat him, he hadn’t fought at featherweight weight for 3 years. Again man, twisting the narrative... that was viewed as a 50/50 fight at the time even the bookmakers had both at odds of 10/11.

                      You’re free to believe AJ has the better resume but if you want to discuss it, please present some actual evidence instead of just your opinion.

                      I can back my opinion by saying Crawford has beaten more defending world champions, more former world champions, more future world champions more has more title defences, has won more world titles, won more lineal titles, more undisputed titles, beaten more undefeated champions, more undefeated challengers. None of that is opinion, that’s all factual.

                      What can you back your opinion with?

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