Crawford to 154 please

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  • whollisboxing
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    #21
    Originally posted by revelated
    You realize that him going after Teixeira is just as bad as him going after Indongo and Horn...right?

    I just want to make sure you understand what you're asking.

    Why wouldn't you want him to go up to 154 and fight someone like Erislandy Lara, a guy who has never been dominated, got arguably robbed at least twice, who we can see is a VERY skilled fighter, but isn't necessarily inaccessible?

    Plus Lara is IBO champ at 154, which means the WBO is more likely to give Crawford the shot if he wants it.

    Plus Lara is with a promoter that's done business with Crawford before (Gamboa, Prescott), so Crawford can't use the PBC excuse.

    That seems more logical to me.
    I think that the Texiera fight is more about grabbing a belt at 154 as a bargaining chip than anything. Plus he could grab the belt and then defend it against someone like Lara after that.

    Crawford vs. Lara for the WBO title at 154 sounds better for me but I get your point.

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    • sicko
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      #22
      Bud next move should be to let his contract run out, become a Free Agent like Canelo and Zurdo Ramirez and like Canelo and Reynoso starting building up your own Promotion and Self Promote and work with PBC, Eddie Hearn and Top Rank still on a Fight To Fight basis only leaving your options open for any and everything

      As for 154? Hell No! Way too many fights to be made at 147 to just move up to 154 now to take on by far the Weakest Champion in the Division! Even Michel Soro with his Gold WBA Belt is better than Texieria IMO. SO a fight with Texieria does ZERO for Bud and would bring on even more hate and Criticism

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      • Ultralight
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        #23
        Originally posted by Doubledagger
        I don't think its entirely Crawford's fault.

        Notice that only the guys with losses from the PBC side are calling out Crawford.

        Thurman didn't even mention Crawford until he lost to Manny, Porter was friends with Crawford until he lost to Spence, if Garcia loses to Spence expect him to start shouting out Crawford's name.

        They only want him when they have everything to gain and nothing to lose, and in Keith Thurman's case he doesn't even actually want him he just trying to get clout off of his name.

        Spence is the only that has been talking about the Crawford fight but even then he wants to clean out his side of the street before doing that.

        Personally I understand its the business. PBC can make lots of money just letting those guys on their side eliminate each other until there is only one champion from their side. They don't need Crawford especially since they will have to split revenue with Top Rank and ESPN.

        From Spence's perspective its a no brainer. Spence has always maintained that he wants to be undisputed and because of that he and Crawford are gonna have to see each other.

        Its a matter of how soon can he get the remaining belt on the PBC side which is Pac's belt.

        Soon as he gets that there will only be one belt remaining and hopefully by then he will have enough clout to make it a profitable venture for the men in suits.

        I hear alot of people saying they hope Crawford crosses the street but understand that Arum and Warren control that belt, not PBC. PBC controls the WBC, WBA, and the IBF.

        If Crawford comes over to pbc he might lose that belt outside of the ring before he faces Spence.

        Then we will never have an undisputed welter, smh.

        Also, I understand that the Crawford v Spence fight has been hyped up since before Spence even fought Brook and Bud was still at 140.

        Heck it was before Bud even unified with Indongo when Max Kellerman, out of the blue, asked Crawford about moving up and fighting Spence.

        I was shocked AF because it was so random, but that's how this whole thing started.

        Before Bud even unified 140, before Spence had even proven himself in a title match. Just imagine.

        Bud had rhe championship experience at the time and would have had the advantage in my book.

        But Errol Spence is a sword that is being forged in an inferno with fights against prime Brook, Porter, and the Garcias (provided he beats the Danny on the fifth)

        I think he will have closed the experience gap enough at that point that there will be no experience advantage on either side. The fight will be ripe for the making.
        There's definitely some promotional and money reasons for why he can't get a fight. I remember a year or 2 ago, Top Rank was making a big deal about how they sent an offer to Danny Garcia for $3 million to his dad Angel. Which wasn't a proper offer since his dad isnt his manager and also was considered a lowball offer(Which is more obvious now that Khan got a guaranteed $5 million)

        He's not ducking them but he did choose easy money. He could have ended all this nonsense by not resigning with Top rank but then he did.

        Top rank ****ed up thinking that they could make Crawford into a big enough star that they could still have leverage if it comes to a cross promotion fight between him and spence. Now Spence doesn't even need the Crawford fight, he's already a bigger star without him.

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        • JakeTheBoxer
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          #24
          Very bad idea, Teixeira is nobody and you don`t gain legacy fighting nobodies.

          Sign PBC and fight Spence or Jermell at 154.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            I’m done waiting for all this nonsense at 147.

            If he moves up, he’s the mandatory to Patrick Teixeira’s title. Crawford will murder him.

            Charlo-Crawford for undisputed after that.

            ***** the politics at 147 lol. He’s two fights away from legendary with that route.
            Crawford is not a big welterweight so why move up? Move up to fight a weak champion ? I hate that BS. Jermell is the best at 154 so if Crawford does not fight him he has not fought the best.

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            • The D3vil
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              #26
              No, he's only 5'8" and unlike Shawn Porter, he's not a thick dude either.

              He doesn't belong with the 6'ft Charlos, J-Rock, Hurd, and Banana.

              He needs Spence or Pacquaio to tell Al Haymon to let him fight him.

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                #27
                Originally posted by The D3vil
                No, he's only 5'8" and unlike Shawn Porter, he's not a thick dude either.

                He doesn't belong with the 6'ft Charlos, J-Rock, Hurd, and Banana.

                He needs Porter to tell BoMac to let him fight him.
                Fixed that for you sir

                Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 11-18-2020, 11:07 AM.

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                • The D3vil
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by revelated
                  Fixed that for you sir

                  Do we really want Shawn Porter at this stage though?

                  He should be fighting champs at 147 now.

                  We need Spence or Pacquiao in unification fights.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                    I’m done waiting for all this nonsense at 147.

                    If he moves up, he’s the mandatory to Patrick Teixeira’s title. Crawford will murder him.

                    Charlo-Crawford for undisputed after that.

                    ***** the politics at 147 lol. He’s two fights away from legendary with that route.
                    Charlo is PBC so he will duck Crawford also

                    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                    If there is too much politics at 147 (by virtue of Crawford literally choosing to not fight anyone, I add). How in the world is he going to fight Charlo?
                    It has been independently confirmed that Crawford and Top Rank offered contracts to Manny Pacquiao when he was still under TR and then Danny Garcia. Danny Garcia's offer would've been a career high purse for Danny and his first headliner in a PPV event.

                    Danny would reject the fight offer and instead fought highly esteemed Adrian Granados for $1m flat. This happened when Danny was publicly requesting for rematches with Thurman and Porter. Nothing says "I deserve a rematch" like beating a jounreyman instead of a 3-division undefeated champ who is Top 3 PFP in the world.

                    Yeah, Crawford ducking everyone

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                    • mathed
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                      #30
                      Sounds like a bunch of people don't want Crawford to fight Spence to me. It's okay, a loss won't be the end of his career, he's young.

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