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  • #21
    Originally posted by Bandman View Post
    damn. bad look for Crawfish.

    Porter is a nightmare for anybody. Bud will have to go to war.
    He's been a nightmare for everyone so far (except Brook), but I have always thought that Bud would school and probably KO Porter when and if they ever fight. Bud is too strong, smart and versatile to let Porter be successful with his rugby-style fighting over 12 rounds.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by revelated View Post
      This is your problem - equating Mayweather who fought top world champions - multiple of them - vs Crawford who has not at 147.

      CRAWFORD HAS NOT EARNED IT YET. HE HAS TO BEAT TOP, PRIME, UNDAMAGED OPPOSITION TO EARN IT!

      Bob MF'n Arum himself has said it now, not just here but in the interview he cut before the Brook fight.


      When your own promoter says you aren't doing enough, you're not!
      Well generally, if a fighter vacates his championship at one weight and moves to another weight, the sanctioning bodies usually try to make him a number one contender at the weight he is going to.

      So in Crawford's case, he was the number one contender for Horn's title and won it.

      He went on to beat a number of mandatories for the WBO.

      So fighting a guy with a big name who does not have a belt is taking a step back if you already have a belt.


      Gervonta to Farmer: "You gotta get a belt!"

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      • #23
        Originally posted by revelated View Post
        This is your problem - equating Mayweather who fought top world champions - multiple of them - vs Crawford who has not at 147.

        CRAWFORD HAS NOT EARNED IT YET. HE HAS TO BEAT TOP, PRIME, UNDAMAGED OPPOSITION TO EARN IT!

        Bob MF'n Arum himself has said it now, not just here but in the interview he cut before the Brook fight.


        When your own promoter says you aren't doing enough, you're not!
        Surely Arum has never been bitter against a fighter when it's close to contract time.

        He would never do something like that.

        He has never set up a guy to lose before allowing him to go do business somewhere else.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by RHETOЯIC View Post
          Well generally, if a fighter vacates his championship at one weight and moves to another weight, the sanctioning bodies usually try to make him a number one contender at the weight he is going to.

          So in Crawford's case, he was the number one contender for Horn's title and won it.

          He went on to beat a number of mandatories for the WBO.

          So fighting a guy with a big name who does not have a belt is taking a step back if you already have a belt.


          Gervonta to Farmer: "You gotta get a belt!"
          Brook was not a mando.

          Brook wasn't even ranked.


          Justify it.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by revelated View Post
            This is your problem - equating Mayweather who fought top world champions - multiple of them - vs Crawford who has not at 147.

            CRAWFORD HAS NOT EARNED IT YET. HE HAS TO BEAT TOP, PRIME, UNDAMAGED OPPOSITION TO EARN IT!

            Bob MF'n Arum himself has said it now, not just here but in the interview he cut before the Brook fight.


            When your own promoter says you aren't doing enough, you're not!
            I'm not equating the two fighters.

            I am simply saying that an argument made by one fighter can be used for the other fighter.

            Mayweather has beaten a lot of champions, but that most world champion record is deceptive...

            Many of them were no longer at their peak when Mayweather fought them.

            Many of them were coming off a big victories, but the blueprint on how to beat them was set long before Floyd fought them.

            I compare it to how Tito, who had already been exposed against Hopkins, returned... He ends up beat Mayorga and everyone is screaming he is back and then he goes on to lose pretty much every round to Winky.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by revelated View Post
              Brook was not a mando.

              Brook wasn't even ranked.


              Justify it.
              Last resort due to the pandemic forcing him to be inactive for nearly a year.

              The interview you just posted with Bo Mac should tell you that.

              If his coach called Brook a wounded duck, and your previous post described all the potential opponents that fell through and why they fell through..


              It's obvious that Brook was a last resort to try to get some activity and some money before reaching a full year of inactivity.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by RHETOЯIC View Post
                I'm not equating the two fighters.

                I am simply saying that an argument made by one fighter can be used for the other fighter.

                Mayweather has beaten a lot of champions, but that most world champion record is deceptive...

                Many of them were no longer at their peak when Mayweather fought them.

                Many of them were coming off a big victories, but the blueprint on how to beat them was set long before Floyd fought them.

                I compare it to how Tito, who had already been exposed against Hopkins, returned... He ends up beat Mayorga and everyone is screaming he is back and then he goes on to lose pretty much every round to Winky.
                Mayweather beat double-digit world champions, most of them back-to-back. Doesn't matter if people think they were prime or not. They had titles, Floyd went after them. Even WITH different promoters.


                Crawford just focuses on

                - One legged
                - Outside of home
                - nearly killed by Carnelo
                - Completely unknown
                - damaged eye sockets and no punch resistance


                Fighters. And gets called #1 P4P.

                Crawford HIMSELF said Jeff Horn is his best win.

                Why are people excusing that? IT's true, but why is that acceptable?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by RHETOЯIC View Post
                  Last resort due to the pandemic forcing him to be inactive for nearly a year.

                  The interview you just posted with Bo Mac should tell you that.

                  If his coach called Brook a wounded duck, and your previous post described all the potential opponents that fell through and why they fell through..


                  It's obvious that Brook was a last resort to try to get some activity and some money before reaching a full year of inactivity.
                  BS. They could have fought Keef as the stronger opposition and actually tried to negotiate instead of running to Twitter and whining.

                  They could have fought Russell, who was approved and wouldn't have asked for that much money.

                  They could have fought Ugas, who while he's PBC, largely self-represents and can fight pretty much anyone.

                  They could have fought the mando in Porter.

                  They could have fought Formella (before Shawn beat him).

                  Basically, they had at least 4 options of fresh, young, prime fighters. They instead went the path of least resistance. That was by design.

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                  • #29
                    Correct. Mayweather has beaten double-digit world champions.
                    Mayweather also says that his best performance was against an Arturo Gatti, who had like 6 losses going into that fight.

                    In any case, Crawford's story is still being written.

                    Floyd's is complete.

                    At 33, he still has time to prove his greatness.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by revelated View Post
                      BS. They could have fought Keef as the stronger opposition and actually tried to negotiate instead of running to Twitter and whining.

                      They could have fought Russell, who was approved and wouldn't have asked for that much money.

                      They could have fought Ugas, who while he's PBC, largely self-represents and can fight pretty much anyone.

                      They could have fought the mando in Porter.

                      They could have fought Formella (before Shawn beat him).

                      Basically, they had at least 4 options of fresh, young, prime fighters. They instead went the path of least resistance. That was by design.
                      I am not entirely sure about the negotiations and availability of the fighters you mentioned. I also do not know who Russell is, but I would be interested in seeing him fight if he is good.

                      Following the pandemic, the matchmakers have given us fights almost as if they're saying, "Here... that's all we got. Take it or leave it."

                      Feels like i am at a restaurant that serves great food, but the kitchen is closed.

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