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  • Beercules
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    #21
    Originally posted by denium
    I might put a few quid on Kell, Dan seems convinced and he knows his s***
    Same here.


    I'm rooting for Brook here.

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      #22
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      You make some valid points but I'm not seeing the snap gone off his punches at all more he's been fighting really big guys who can take his power better. Some of them wouldn't look out of place at MW.
      His last opponent wasn't upto much and I did feel Brook looked a bit rusty/disinterested but he knocked him out with a jab. I don't think you're doing that if you lack the snap.

      I always felt Brook was too big for WW but maybe a little too small for 154 and 150/151 if there was such a thing would be perfect for him.
      i hope you are right, i would piss my pants if crawford lost after all the hype but i just think that version of brook that fought porter is long gone

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      • deathofaclown
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        #23
        I can actually see it being quite a boring fight.

        Brook generally fights from distance and catches people coming in, Bud will
        probably Be cautious of getting timed on the way in because Kell has great timing.

        Also Crawfords switch hitting isn’t going to bother Brook because he is from the Ingle gym and they all fight at way. so he’s been sparring switch hitters since he was a little kid. He can switch hit too, although rarely does.

        I think it might be a pretty dull and cautious affair.

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          #24
          Originally posted by dan_cov
          Bigger, better fundamentals, stronger, hits harder, better chin.

          What advantages does Crawford have? Maybe fresher, maybe - he had about 250 or more amateur fights and is no spring chicken himself.
          Tony Weeks - huge advantage.
          Edge in stamina but tbf we've never seen him truly pushed at a pace.

          I don't buy the eye test. I can't for my life see a P4P #1 talent. Just a very good boxer who seems to do just about everything well but nothing great.

          I look at Brook - even if he is past it as presumed. Seconds I need & I can say yh great jab, great distance control, great straight right hand, great timing.
          I can't say that about Crawford. He's just very good, nothing blows me away about him.

          Brooks seen switch-hitters, a Dime a dozen coming out that gym. He's a switch-hitter himself and a better one than Crawford.

          I see holes, a lot of bad habits in particular when he turns southpaw I expect a better fighter to take advantage of.

          He turns southpaw he starts pulling straight back almost everytime he's done throwing.
          He circles anti-clockwise & when pressured he lazily probes with the jab and brings his chin up everytime.
          Brook hooks off the jab superbly & I can see that leaping uppercut working a treat also.

          If I am wrong I will hold my hands up but I'm not buying the hype, odds or mismatch calls. I think Brook gives him absolute hell.
          If you really believed this you would put a bet on it and show us. You get 8 times return betting on Brook.

          You’re just picking the underdog so that you could look like a genius if it did come true.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Beercules
            Same here.


            I'm rooting for Brook here.
            Same, i respect Crawford's skills but he's one boring mofo and i've always liked Brook, i was rooting for him to KTFO Khan lol.

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              #26
              Originally posted by TheGR8TESTOAT
              WORD? was thinking of betting on Brook actually its like a 9 to 1 odds. So $100 on Brook will get you back like a G!
              ... people who put money on a fighter usually don't talk...

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              • Richard Hamilton
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                #27
                Crawford in 4

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #28
                  See some of your points Dan but surely we must consider that Brook hasn’t beaten a good top level guy since 2014?

                  Brook looked shocking against Zerefa a few fights ago

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by dan_cov
                    I understand the concerns regarding Brook but I think we have to note how unproven Crawford is. The odd worrying moment hes had he's bounced back and fought through adversity so props but hes not had to against a really good or/& big opponent.

                    I have more questions about how Crawford will deal with what Brook does than vice versa.
                    How will Crawford deal with that jab? and the strength of Brook. Someone who is ambidextrous.
                    Kavalauskas (sp) looks a strong mf but he isn't physically strong. Brook is & for large parts was manhandling a little pitbull in Porter, pushing him & walking him back. Granted Crawford is a better inside fighter than Porter and doesn't smother his own work but to me it was very impressive how he easily dealt with Porters physicality.

                    I'm excited for this one.
                    Brook gave Porter a hard time SIX years ago, SIX. Your theory of him beating Crawford may have held water then, but this is now and post two brutal fights against Golovkin and Spence. We'll likely see a shadow of Kell that gradually fades away with each passing round.

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                      #30
                      Brook would need the star treatment to have a shot in peak condition...the ref allowing him to clinch all night...but we already know what happens when he was the B-side against Spence. If he catches Crawford early and takes his time once Crawford tries to get back to him, he can make it close.

                      Crawford is not extraordinary in a lot of ways and has eaten the cleanest shots from B-fighters off any p4p entrants...but he has a great mentality and coupling with the star treatment he'll get in the clinch, he will probably outwork Brook inside and hold his own outside...especially if Brook is ready to cash out.....the listed heights are also misleading.....they always list Crawford as the smaller man but he looks as big as the fake 5'9 guys...and healthier at the weight...

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