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  • dan_cov
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    Brook will beat Crawford

    Bigger, better fundamentals, stronger, hits harder, better chin.

    What advantages does Crawford have? Maybe fresher, maybe - he had about 250 or more amateur fights and is no spring chicken himself.
    Tony Weeks - huge advantage.
    Edge in stamina but tbf we've never seen him truly pushed at a pace.

    I don't buy the eye test. I can't for my life see a P4P #1 talent. Just a very good boxer who seems to do just about everything well but nothing great.

    I look at Brook - even if he is past it as presumed. Seconds I need & I can say yh great jab, great distance control, great straight right hand, great timing.
    I can't say that about Crawford. He's just very good, nothing blows me away about him.

    Brooks seen switch-hitters, a Dime a dozen coming out that gym. He's a switch-hitter himself and a better one than Crawford.

    I see holes, a lot of bad habits in particular when he turns southpaw I expect a better fighter to take advantage of.

    He turns southpaw he starts pulling straight back almost everytime he's done throwing.
    He circles anti-clockwise & when pressured he lazily probes with the jab and brings his chin up everytime.
    Brook hooks off the jab superbly & I can see that leaping uppercut working a treat also.

    If I am wrong I will hold my hands up but I'm not buying the hype, odds or mismatch calls. I think Brook gives him absolute hell.
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    #2
    mean machine would beat brook now

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      #3
      Just not seeing an A+ fighter or talent not even an A
      I'd give him a B+



      I don't rate that Lithuanian either, he's C level at best.

      Brook would knock that guy out in 5-6 rounds without breaking a sweat.

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        #4
        Brook is not as shot as people think. And he will come huge in the ring. Crawford will fight 154 guy, actually.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Songbird
          mean machine would beat brook now

          Nope.
          Useless like every other fighter to come out of Lithuania.

          He couldn't even beat a gatekeeper in Ray Robinson & looked awful vs Zewski

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            #6
            Brook doesn't live the lifestyle, that's why he's going to lose.

            He's got all the talent in the world, but when you consider his party lifestyle and injuries sustained by GGG & Spence, I can't see him lasting 12.

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              Were u the only other guy on here that picked brook to beat porter dan? Had money on that too but not touching the underdog this time. Brook is done, the weight, motivation, trainer etc all points to a cash out

              He struggled with the male stripper ffs

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                #8
                I will bet but it'll have to be online as everywhere is closed as online betting has killed the bookmakers all off and the few still about are closed due to lockdown.

                8/1 is crazy

                3/1, 4/1 I can get behind that but 8/1?

                If he'd beaten Manny a few years back or something I'd get it but his WW run has been seriously underwhelming.

                He's been crowned prematurely, he hasn't proven he's what they say.

                He's very good, he'll be hard to beat but I don't buy him him as exceptional, p4p, unbeatable or even close to being. I think Brook is a huge step up and with no hydration clause I think you have to give Brook an advantage there, that is huge for him especially with how much that'll help a 34yr olds recovery.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mlac
                  Were u the only other guy on here that picked brook to beat porter dan? Had money on that too but not touching the underdog this time. Brook is done, the weight, motivation, trainer etc all points to a cash out

                  He struggled with the male stripper ffs
                  I might put a few quid on Kell, Dan seems convinced and he knows his s***

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dan_cov
                    Bigger, better fundamentals, stronger, hits harder, better chin.

                    What advantages does Crawford have? Maybe fresher, maybe - he had about 250 or more amateur fights and is no spring chicken himself.
                    Tony Weeks - huge advantage.
                    Edge in stamina but tbf we've never seen him truly pushed at a pace.

                    I don't buy the eye test. I can't for my life see a P4P #1 talent. Just a very good boxer who seems to do just about everything well but nothing great.

                    I look at Brook - even if he is past it as presumed. Seconds I need & I can say yh great jab, great distance control, great straight right hand, great timing.
                    I can't say that about Crawford. He's just very good, nothing blows me away about him.

                    Brooks seen switch-hitters, a Dime a dozen coming out that gym. He's a switch-hitter himself and a better one than Crawford.

                    I see holes, a lot of bad habits in particular when he turns southpaw I expect a better fighter to take advantage of.

                    He turns southpaw he starts pulling straight back almost everytime he's done throwing.
                    He circles anti-clockwise & when pressured he lazily probes with the jab and brings his chin up everytime.
                    Brook hooks off the jab superbly & I can see that leaping uppercut working a treat also.

                    If I am wrong I will hold my hands up but I'm not buying the hype, odds or mismatch calls. I think Brook gives him absolute hell.
                    Totally other side of the spectrum to you, I've thought Crawford was special since the first time I saw him. He is fantastic, can fight, box, and he looks to me like someome who rises to the occasion. He has a proper mentality too, it's hard to put your finger on it exactly but certain fighters have it, and hes got it.

                    Brook is a limited fighter at 147, always has been. He isnt the best version of himself, you only have to look at the twi Carson Jones fights, its revealing to me that the rematch was over 147lbs and Brook won it easy. It isnt a push over but I expect Crawford to dominate from round 4. He always starts slow, I think his eyes take a while to adjust to the speed of his opponent, but once he locks in and gets going, he's money.

                    Brook wont be able to keep up with Crawford's mind quickness, and mental processing. He will stop him in rounds 8-11

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