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  • KTFOKING
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    Coppinger: Rift Growing Between Crawford and Top Rank

    So Coppinger just wrote an article on The Athletic regarding the issues between the two parties, and I'll post some of the highlights.

    -Crawford intentionally delayed signing the contract to fight Brook for three weeks to stick it to TR for not delivering on a marquee opponent but because he took so long to sign the contract, they could not promote the fight during the Lomachenko/Lopez telecast. This ticked BoMac and the rest of Team Crawford off.

    This was simply the latest episode in a simmering behind-the-scenes rift between Crawford and Top Rank. Just a few weeks earlier on Sept. 7, Crawford’s attorney, Todd Kinney of the Omaha, Neb.-based law firm Kutak Rock, sent a letter to Top Rank president Todd duBoef airing a litany of grievances related to the direction of Crawford’s career.
    -Crawford's attorney said his client is beyond frustrated as TR has failed to deliver a big money, break through fight for him.

    -TR was in advanced stages with Pacquiao to put a fight in the Middle East where Pacquiao would receive a 23.5M guarantee and Crawford would receive a 6.5M guarantee with upside of $5 dollars per PPV exceeding 300k buys. Crawford countered with a 9.5M guarantee with $500,000 upside. According to TR, the fight fell through due to Covid but Crawford's side is tired of hearing why the Pacquiao fight continues to fall apart since TR has been "dangling" it in front of them for years.

    -Todd deBoef said they have made offers to DSG, Porter etc and they are doing everything they could do on their part. deBoef also said they have given Crawford every opportunity to increase his name value but he continues to pass on opportunities to go on top radio stations or TV stations. Crawford turned down a big radio spot before the Khan fight and gave little effort promoting the fight that failed to crack 150,000 buys.

    -Crawford put it in his contract when he fought Mean Machine that TR would have to attempt to make the Spence fight and make a legitimate offer. Spence obviously got in a car wreck and Crawford said he doesn't want to fight him until he shows he is back and is still a great fighter.

    -Crawford, even when given spots on SportsCenter and other big shows, is not personable at all and looks disinterested in every interview. He thinks he is a bigger star than he is, and TR is getting frustrated themselves.

    He’s undoubtedly well-known to boxing fans and casual combat sports observers, but outside of that scope, he hasn’t truly moved the needle thus far. His reach certainly is nowhere near that of Pacquiao, but he also hasn’t drawn as well as Spence, who has pulled in nearly 50,000 fans at the home of the Dallas Cowboys and twice reeled in over 300,000 PPV buys.
    -Crawford is earning another terrific purse this fight:

    Despite Crawford’s unhappiness, he’s being paid handsomely for what his team views as just another fight. The champion will earn $4 million, per sources, $500,000 above his guaranteed minimum. Brook is set to make $2 million.
    -Crawford signed a three year deal on October of 2018 and will be a free agent next October. Yet to be determined what he decides to do, but he is open to leaving if he can't get the fights he wants.



    I think I covered the important stuff in this article and didn't want to go overboard posting tidbits of the article as it is behind a paywall and boxingscene does not like that.

    Anyways, I think people have been too hard on Top Rank here. Maybe Crawford does end up leaving, but how can they make Crawford into a bigger star when he does not want to get in front of the camera or hop on to the top radio stations? Compare Crawford to Lopez, the latter who has been on damn near every single radio station doing interviews after his big win over Lomachenko. Lopez WANTS to be a star and knows what he has to do to become one. Now, Spence isn't one that does crazy amount of interviews himself, but he has the backing of the Cowboys which helps big time. Crawford can't do much with the backing of Nebraska so it is on him to get out more in front of the public.

    I always said he should not leave Top Rank if he does not want to. I hate when people want fighters to leave elsewhere. It's THEIR lives, no one should tell them to work for someone they don't want to work with. Even if he stays at Top Rank, I think he will at least get the Spence fight next year. Of course, that is if Spence is still the same fighter and comes through against Garcia in December.
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    He was better off signing to PBC due to his weight class.

    I hope he doesn’t leave Arum and go to DAZN. Just flag your promotional company and get the 3-4 fights you need at 147 and retire. He’s 33 already.

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      Originally posted by BangEM
      He was better off signing to PBC due to his weight class.

      I hope he doesn’t leave Arum and go to DAZN. Just flag your promotional company and get the 3-4 fights you need at 147 and retire. He’s 33 already.
      But if he doesn't want to go to PBC, then he shouldn't go there. He won't leave TR for DAZN, because what exactly can DAZN provide him? He's already making excellent money.

      If he ends up getting Spence next year, then all will be good. If he wins, then fighters at 147 have to come to him anyways. He would have three of the four belts and be the top dog.

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          To be fair I think Top Rank lost money on his ppv's.
          Last edited by Shadoww702; 11-13-2020, 10:45 AM.

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            Originally posted by Shadoww702
            Top be fair I think Top Rank lost money on his ppv's.
            Definitely on the Khan one since Khan himself was guaranteed like 5M for that fight. But that's the thing, like what can Top Rank do to make Crawford into a bigger name? There's only so much a promoter can do. They have put him on regular ESPN how many times? And a lot of his fights have done big ratings. Sometimes a fighter just isn't destined to be a PPV star or just a star in general, and that's perfectly fine. Now, his team can be upset at TR for always bringing up a potential fight with Pacquiao but not delivering it for one reason or another, but they are paying him great money for mediocre fights and he's not taking advantage of his public appearances. I didn't mention it on the OP and I should have, but the article said he's committed to some appearances and then last minute pulled out.

            It could be that it is best for both parties to just move on. I just think the TR hate here is a bit overboard. TR did tell Crawford that Thurman only made 2M vs Pacquiao which was laughable and I'm sure they have told him other lies, but that's pretty common for every promotional company.

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              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              Definitely on the Khan one since Khan himself was guaranteed like 5M for that fight. But that's the thing, like what can Top Rank do to make Crawford into a bigger name? There's only so much a promoter can do. They have put him on regular ESPN how many times? And a lot of his fights have done big ratings. Sometimes a fighter just isn't destined to be a PPV star or just a star in general, and that's perfectly fine. Now, his team can be upset at TR for always bringing up a potential fight with Pacquiao but not delivering it for one reason or another, but they are paying him great money for mediocre fights and he's not taking advantage of his public appearances. I didn't mention it on the OP and I should have, but the article said he's committed to some appearances and then last minute pulled out.

              It could be that it is best for both parties to just move on. I just think the TR hate here is a bit overboard. TR did tell Crawford that Thurman only made 2M vs Pacquiao which was laughable and I'm sure they have told him other lies, but that's pretty common for every promotional company.
              I bought both his ppv fights and the Postol one was boring as ***! I wanted my money back.

              Khan was ok I guess.

              I'm just not into seeing him fight no hoppers any more. Its old and stinks. Another thing with Top Rank and Bob is on record saying they don't give two shts about the undercards.

              Charlo's card was STACKED! And loved it!

              Santa Cruz vs. TANK was DOPE and every fight was AWESOME!!! Best part they didn't wait around for the main event and put it on right away. I was afraid they was gonna lose the momentum and delay the fight an hour or 2.

              Crawford is who he is. He's old school and can't see him ever selling fights

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                Crawford is a HoFame boxer he just never will be a Mega Star PPV boxer.

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                  Originally posted by Shadoww702
                  I bought both his ppv fights and the Postol one was boring as ***! I wanted my money back.

                  Khan was ok I guess.

                  I'm just not into seeing him fight no hoppers any more. Its old and stinks. Another thing with Top Rank and Bob is on record saying they don't give two shts about the undercards.

                  Charlo's card was STACKED! And loved it!

                  Santa Cruz vs. TANK was DOPE and every fight was AWESOME!!! Best part they didn't wait around for the main event and put it on right away. I was afraid they was gonna lose the momentum and delay the fight an hour or 2.

                  Crawford is who he is. He's old school and can't see him ever selling fights
                  I bought his PPVs as well and I'm a fan as he is a bad a$$ fighter that is looking to go for the kill every single fight. Crawford fights with mean intentions and is legitimately just a mean dude lol.

                  Tank vs LSC didn't have a competitive undercard though and while the fights were exciting, they were mainly one sided stoppages. Which I mean isn't a bad thing and kind of lets you know Arum may not be wrong that undercards don't really matter for PPVs.

                  Anyways, Crawford will just need to eventually get that big fight. Let's hope he does because dude is a great talent. Can validate all the P4P love.

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                    Originally posted by KTFOKING
                    But if he doesn't want to go to PBC, then he shouldn't go there. He won't leave TR for DAZN, because what exactly can DAZN provide him? He's already making excellent money.

                    If he ends up getting Spence next year, then all will be good. If he wins, then fighters at 147 have to come to him anyways. He would have three of the four belts and be the top dog.
                    I don’t think PBC can pay him good money. But if he can stay independent - that will open doors for him and create opportunities.

                    I think he only needs the Spence and Pacman fight. The rest are easy to make.

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