Comments Thread For: Kell Brook Motivated To Do a 'Calzaghe-Lacy' Job on Crawford

[Griever0730]

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Ha ha ha!!! Not just that. Most Brits believe that Calzaghe reached the zenith of boxing by beating Roy Jones - a long decrepit shadow of his old self. Mits the same reason they value Khan’s win over Zab.
To the Brits, conquering the US is always a big deal.

That said, I’m rooting for Brook to upset Crawford. Not because I like him but just because Crawford has turned into a cherry picking version of PAC

A shocking loss will pretty much end his career. Even if he were to win the rematch. There is no justification of any kind at 33 years of age for Crawford’s resume to look as tattered as it does.

Calzaghe's win over Hopkins had credibility considering what he was still able to accomplish after that even at his age. Roy was WAY past his best days when they met. Crawford will always have the resume argument held against him bc he hasn't met the marquee guys we all have wanted to see him in with, but he's fought a lot of good and undefeated fighters, and he has made everyone of them look average. His skills and talent are undeniable. Brook probably the biggest and most notable opponent of career, so well see if he can do the same to Brook that he's done to everybody else he's fought. Should be a good scrap.

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I don't hold it against Fury and he can slap with the best of them, has some pretty good chin hold moves too.

well its not enforced at all but calzaghe literally did it almost nonstop. we saw how he tried to box against hopkins the first 4 rounds and couldnt lay a glove on him so he just went full palm mode and still couldnt really hit him but at least he generated "action" and that was good enough i suppose. low standards

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Calzaghe's win over Hopkins had credibility considering what he was still able to accomplish after that even at his age. Roy was WAY past his best days when they met. Crawford will always have the resume argument held against him bc he hasn't met the marquee guys we all have wanted to see him in with, but he's fought a lot of good and undefeated fighters, and he has made everyone of them look average. His skills and talent are undeniable. Brook probably the biggest and most notable opponent of career, so well see if he can do the same to Brook that he's done to everybody else he's fought. Should be a good scrap.

did you see the fight? he was flopping around hitting air running into counters. it was frankly embarrassing. he would have been dismantled 100 times worse if hopkins wasnt an old man who had to conserve himself. instead he was just dismantled in a slow methodical way but he missed a lot ofp unches so the judges did their thing

[Griever0730]

I guess he could have referenced Wilder vs Fury. Lacey and Wilder were both unskilled hype job fighters with a punch and no record exposed by a more skilled fighter, does that help ?

I don't think obviously there is any comparison in Brook Crawford. I'd be surprised if you can find even "a Brit" fan who makes Brook favourite or anywhere close to even in this fight.

Agreed. Normally the Brit fans would be bringing this up like they did when he fought Spence, but Brook himself actually brought it up again. It didn't fair him well last time. Highly doubt there much of anybody picking him to beat Crawford. Think Crawford will take him out, but not without a real fight from Brook.

[Griever0730]

Fury v Wilder 2

Sad. Everybody on the planet knows that Wilder is a one-trick pony with nothing else. Fury, like him or not, is a master boxer and he showed that in both fights against Wilder. Only thing impressive about the second one was that as much I felt he was gonna dominate the same way, was that nobody thought he was gonna run over Wilder the way he did. That was career-defining stuff.

[Griever0730]

did you see the fight? he was flopping around hitting air running into counters. it was frankly embarrassing. he would have been dismantled 100 times worse if hopkins wasnt an old man who had to conserve himself. instead he was just dismantled in a slow methodical way but he missed a lot ofp unches so the judges did their thing

I've seen it. Thought it coulda gone anybody's way or a draw. It was an ugly fight all around but I expect that from all of Hopkins' fights. Calzaghe's style made it no better, but it had it's good moments here and there.

[Oldskoolg]

It's sad bc I like alot of the Brits. I understand that Lacy was the favorite, but(at least to me at the time) always thought Calzaghe's style was gonna be a nightmare for Lacy. Proved to be even worse that I thought. Lacy had power, but that was pretty much it. He was never really impressive IMO.

Britain has a class system and it’s a trait of the lower classes. Please do not associate all Brits with the nationalistic p**** out on the piss singing football songs at Old Trafford and the like....

[Oldskoolg]

Sad. Everybody on the planet knows that Wilder is a one-trick pony with nothing else. Fury, like him or not, is a master boxer and he showed that in both fights against Wilder. Only thing impressive about the second one was that as much I felt he was gonna dominate the same way, was that nobody thought he was gonna run over Wilder the way he did. That was career-defining stuff.

The only thing wilder showed in that rematch was a strong heart. He took a beating from round 2 on, a bloody frightful beating.

[Oldskoolg]

And by the way, Calzaghe was great and rightfully a hall of fame talent but he came along at a time when the great middleweights and super middleweights were old and past it and there were no light heavyweights of note around. Literally everyone he beat was old and or damaged....Hopkins, Jones, Eubank= old. Can you imagine the damage he would have taken at the hands of a prime Nigel Benn? A prime Gerald McClellan? A prime Roy Jones? All three of those fights would have ended in knockouts. James Toney? I cannot see Calzaghe finishing the fight against Toney at super middleweight. What about Virgil Hill? Dariusz Micalsweski? Henry Maske?

[Griever0730]

The only thing wilder showed in that rematch was a strong heart. He took a beating from round 2 on, a bloody frightful beating.

Yeah. The damage has been showing even worse ever since with the nonsense he's been on lately.