Crawford/Brook: After Kell's recent picture, bookies have now reset odds back down

[Armchairhero]

Can't say because I don't recall "the English way".

I know that the current method is how it's been for as long as I can remember.

In straight line betting, X-to-Y means you'd have to bet $100 times abs(X) to win $100 times abs(Y). Abs = absolute number.

The favorite will have a negative number for X.

So take the current 16-to-1 for Crawford. It's -1600. The absolute value of -1600 is 1600. So you'd have to bet $1600 on Crawford to make $100 because he's a heavy favorite. This is how the bookies make money because a lot of people only do sure bets for favorites.

Betting long odds is where abs(Y) is greater than abs(X) . This is where people make big money on underdogs like Andy Ruiz in the first Joshua fight.

Kell Brook is 1-to-8 that he wins, which is +800, a heavy underdog. Absolute value of +800 is 800.
Betting $100 gets you $800 if he happens to win somehow.

That’s quite amusing, we cling onto fractions for betting odds (2/1 etc) while everything else is metric. You cling on to old English measures using pounds, feet and inches and move to metric betting odds...

As an engineer, measuring in English is ridiculous, having to present sizes into fractions instead of just transferring the actual size as it’s read.

[Combat Talk Radio]

That’s quite amusing, we cling onto fractions for betting odds (2/1 etc) while everything else is metric. You cling on to old English measures using pounds, feet and inches and move to metric betting odds...

As an engineer, measuring in English is ridiculous, having to present sizes into fractions instead of just transferring the actual size as it’s read.

Not sure I'm following, you haven't given an example of how you feel it "should" be.

So I'll have to guess your intent.

If you're saying "present the odds as a fraction" it wouldn't make sense.

1/700 (Brook odds as of yesterday), literally translated, is saying that if Brook fought Crawford 700 times he'd win one.

First of all you can't prove that.

Second, it's unlikely anyway.

Presenting Crawford odds as 1600/1 also doesn't make sense, because that's like saying "I have 1600 ones!" which makes no sense vs. "I have $1600" (regardless of denomination).

As far as the whole metric deal otherwise... I actually only use Celsius because it makes better sense than Fahrenheit to me, but the rest doesn't, like kilometer and meter and yards, etc.

[rickJen]

As far as the whole metric deal otherwise... I actually only use Celsius because it makes better sense than Fahrenheit to me, but the rest doesn't, like kilometer and meter and yards, etc.

Don't even know why they still use Farenheit doe.
It made zero sense to me since I learned temperature units in grade school.

Water begins to freeze at 0 degree C.
Water begins to boil at 100 degrees Centigrade/Celsius.

Super easy to imagine and remember.

In Farenheit it's 32 and 212. Yuk!

Kills me.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Don't even know why they still use Farenheit doe.
It made zero sense to me since I learned temperature units in grade school.

Water begins to freeze at 0 degree C.
Water begins to boil at 100 degrees Centigrade/Celsius.

Super easy to imagine and remember.

In Farenheit it's 32 and 212. Yuk!

Kills me.

US sticks with Fahrenheit because it's still predominantly taught, and there's no real incentive to change away from it since you can mathematically convert.

Fahrenheit is more precise than Celsius, but I and many other people don't feel single digit shifts in temperature; we do feel 2 digit shifts. So for example, I can't feel any difference between 66 and 67 degrees F, but I can definitely feel the difference between 19 and 20 degrees C. Easily. That makes it easy to set my thermostat, because I always know it's a single digit shift for comfort depending on ambient temperature.

[rickJen]

US sticks with Fahrenheit because it's still predominantly taught, and there's no real incentive to change away from it since you can mathematically convert.

Fahrenheit is more precise than Celsius, but I and many other people don't feel single digit shifts in temperature; we do feel 2 digit shifts. So for example, I can't feel any difference between 66 and 67 degrees F, but I can definitely feel the difference between 19 and 20 degrees F. Easily. That makes it easy to set my thermostat, because I always know it's a single digit shift for comfort depending on ambient temperature.

See what I meant?
66, 67, 19, 20 F mean absolutely nothing to me.
They have no relevance to freezing/boiling point of water.
To repeat, 0 degree = freezing point of water.
100 degree C = boiling point of water.

I've been in countries where the weather hits 40 C.

Where I live currently it's around 22 - 30 C during summer.
It's 5 - 10 C max (avg) during winter. Not to mention below freezing.

In Farenheit, meh, don't even care converting them to.

[Combat Talk Radio]

See what I meant?
66, 67, 19, 20 F mean absolutely nothing to me.
They have no relevance to freezing/boiling point of water.
To repeat, 0 degree = freezing point of water.
100 degree C = boiling point of water.

I've been in countries where the weather hits 40 C.

Where I live currently it's around 22 - 30 C during summer.
It's 5 - 10 C max (avg) during winter. Not to mention below freezing.

In Farenheit, meh, don't even care converting them to.

Had a typo in there. I meant 19 to 20 C (which is 2 degrees difference in Fahrenheit).

But I agree with you.

[Armchairhero]

Not sure I'm following, you haven't given an example of how you feel it "should" be.

So I'll have to guess your intent.

If you're saying "present the odds as a fraction" it wouldn't make sense.

1/700 (Brook odds as of yesterday), literally translated, is saying that if Brook fought Crawford 700 times he'd win one.

First of all you can't prove that.

Second, it's unlikely anyway.

Presenting Crawford odds as 1600/1 also doesn't make sense, because that's like saying "I have 1600 ones!" which makes no sense vs. "I have $1600" (regardless of denomination).

As far as the whole metric deal otherwise... I actually only use Celsius because it makes better sense than Fahrenheit to me, but the rest doesn't, like kilometer and meter and yards, etc.

I’ve just looked Crawford is 1/14 meaning for £10 you’d only win £0.71p

Our bookies are giving kell no chance.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I’ve just looked Crawford is 1/14 meaning for £10 you’d only win £0.71p

Our bookies are giving kell no chance.

Not "no" chance. Just very little chance.

But then again, Horn was predicted to have little chance against Manny, and we saw what happened.

You just don't know when Bob Arum isn't happy.