Crawford/Brook: After Kell's recent picture, bookies have now reset odds back down

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  • Bandman
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    #31
    i just bet $80 Brook wins Round 1

    WAR Brook!!

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      #32
      Originally posted by Bandman
      i just bet $80 Brook wins Round 1

      WAR Brook!!
      BetOnline (which is the only service I can technically use) still hasn't opened Round-By-Round and they have poor odds on the over/under.

      Something smells about this fight. Crawford's odds just went back down to 16-To-1 favorite.

      Could you imagine Crawford getting taken the full distance by Brook and losing a SD? Or going to a draw?

      NSB would shut down.

      With Tony Weeks in there it's HIGHLY unlikely, more likely a BS stoppage for Crawford, but still.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Madison boxing
        brooks always been in shape but problem is himself draining to get down there. i give crawford no credit whatsoever for beating him, he should be going after prime opponents not people like a way past prime brook.
        Yea he looks pretty dry, that's fantastic if you're going for mr physique but for a guy notorious for having to drain it could spell trouble.

        He tends to fade as it is, especially when taking punches like in the Spence fight and carson jones fight

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          #34
          Originally posted by Madison boxing
          brooks always been in shape but problem is himself draining to get down there. i give crawford no credit whatsoever for beating him, he should be going after prime opponents not people like a way past prime brook.
          The good thing is that Brook has been at a good weight all year and not just draining himself two months before a fight, like he did for most of his career and in the Spence fight.

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            #35
            Out of curiosity, how do American odds work, I’ve seen recent American streams where they have presented odds in 250 to -20 for example? When did you move from the English way?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Armchairhero
              Out of curiosity, how do American odds work, I’ve seen recent American streams where they have presented odds in 250 to -20 for example? When did you move from the English way?
              Can't say because I don't recall "the English way".

              I know that the current method is how it's been for as long as I can remember.

              In straight line betting, X-to-Y means you'd have to bet $100 times abs(X) to win $100 times abs(Y). Abs = absolute number.

              The favorite will have a negative number for X.

              So take the current 16-to-1 for Crawford. It's -1600. The absolute value of -1600 is 1600. So you'd have to bet $1600 on Crawford to make $100 because he's a heavy favorite. This is how the bookies make money because a lot of people only do sure bets for favorites.

              Betting long odds is where abs(Y) is greater than abs(X) . This is where people make big money on underdogs like Andy Ruiz in the first Joshua fight.

              Kell Brook is 1-to-8 that he wins, which is +800, a heavy underdog. Absolute value of +800 is 800.
              Betting $100 gets you $800 if he happens to win somehow.

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                #37
                It's possible Crawford will run in this fight.
                Even Beltran made him use his bike in some rounds.
                I remember the audience booing.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by genrick
                  It's possible Crawford will run in this fight.
                  Even Beltran made him use his bike in some rounds.
                  I remember the audience booing.
                  I don't see it. He hasn't run at 147.

                  To me I see a repeat of the Benavidez fight as far as style. This fight is all about Brook and whether he's physically ready. It's not skill - Brook is SKILLED. It's whether the damage to him and the whole trainer situation affected him too much.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    I don't see it. He hasn't run at 147.

                    To me I see a repeat of the Benavidez fight as far as style. This fight is all about Brook and whether he's physically ready. It's not skill - Brook is SKILLED. It's whether the damage to him and the whole trainer situation affected him too much.
                    I think Crawford lacks inside skills. He needs distance.
                    He clinches when the opponent is closing in like in the Molina fight.
                    He also gets caught when he trades, ie, Gamboa, Kavaliauskas...

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by genrick
                      I think Crawford lacks inside skills. He needs distance.
                      He clinches when the opponent is closing in like in the Molina fight.
                      He also gets caught when he trades, ie, Gamboa, Kavaliauskas...
                      Of course he has inside skills. I don't think any fighter is better at holding and hitting than him, to be fair.

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