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  • Cobratu
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    #31
    Crawford will never even dare go up anywhere near canelo he gets hurt badly.

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    • hugh grant
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      #32
      Get in the ring with nelo already bud. Yesterday preferbly.
      Stop the talking

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      • JakeTheBoxer
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        #33
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Get in the ring with nelo already bud. Yesterday preferbly.
        Stop the talking
        Crawford is not Duran.

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        • F l i c k e r
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          #34
          Originally posted by Al Broker
          Going “up” is a misconception. That is exclusive for fighters whom bulked up in their careers for fights bigger than their walk around weight. Take RJJ or Toney, or Holyfield. Crawford walks around 165-170 while basically keeping an athletic physique. Therefore, exactly what is Crawford sacrificing to make 147? Some muscle plus a huge amount of water? Fighters whom are in camp and great in sparring perform better than the fight night weight or class they are in. When Brook campaigned at 160 for Golovkin he didn’t have to cut water. This is why he performed so well for how long it lasted. GGG just straight up go angry and overwhelmed Brook by going for broke which is what would be expected by the superior fighter who is a beast compared to Kell Brook. And again, Jermell Charlo is bigger than Spence yet Spence has said he can fight at 160. Spence and Jermell cut a lot of water weight to fight in their departments. It also means by bulking up 15% and new nutrition they can fight northbound. That’s protocol calibration for most fighters.

          Crawford could fight at 160. It’s disappointing to hear him sound skeptic for it. That’s not really P4P attitude
          Spence is 5’10. Walks around 170.
          Crawford is 5’8
          Charlo is 5’11 and is a big 154

          Canelo is 5’9” but hasn’t fought under 154. Maybe his lowest was 147.

          But that is the differences. These guys are naturally big. Crawford isn’t. He is coming from 130. How much could he realistically move up?

          Could he be 160? Sure. But how well is he actually going to fight there?

          That’s why it won’t happen. Crawford is reaching to say he would move up to 160 and fight a comfortable elite boxer at 160.

          The best active boxer in the world at that.

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            #35
            Why not meet halfway at a 156 catchweight? I’m sure Canelo can still make that waiting draining himself too much, and Crawford balloons up to 160+ lbs on fight night. Deep down, he knows Cleneno would knock him out.

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              #36
              Canelo > Crawford even if they were in the same weight class.

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #37
                Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                Why not meet halfway at a 156 catchweight? I’m sure Canelo can still make that waiting draining himself too much, and Crawford balloons up to 160+ lbs on fight night. Deep down, he knows Cleneno would knock him out.
                Originally posted by TheBoxGod
                Canelo > Crawford even if they were in the same weight class.
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                Spence is 5’10. Walks around 170.
                Crawford is 5’8
                Charlo is 5’11 and is a big 154

                Canelo is 5’9” but hasn’t fought under 154. Maybe his lowest was 147.

                But that is the differences. These guys are naturally big. Crawford isn’t. He is coming from 130. How much could he realistically move up?

                Could he be 160? Sure. But how well is he actually going to fight there?

                That’s why it won’t happen. Crawford is reaching to say he would move up to 160 and fight a comfortable elite boxer at 160.

                The best active boxer in the world at that.
                Brook took a risk to be great with GGG. As we saw in the ring, was there much of a difference between Brook and Crawford?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                  Why not meet halfway at a 156 catchweight? I’m sure Canelo can still make that waiting draining himself too much, and Crawford balloons up to 160+ lbs on fight night. Deep down, he knows Cleneno would knock him out.
                  Canelo is not the same fighter Floyd fought any more. He is much bigger now, his list fight was at 175. And you want him to drain him self to 156 for somebody like Crawford? LOL.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                    Spence is 5’10. Walks around 170.
                    Crawford is 5’8
                    Charlo is 5’11 and is a big 154

                    Canelo is 5’9” but hasn’t fought under 154. Maybe his lowest was 147.

                    But that is the differences. These guys are naturally big. Crawford isn’t. He is coming from 130. How much could he realistically move up?

                    Could he be 160? Sure. But how well is he actually going to fight there?

                    That’s why it won’t happen. Crawford is reaching to say he would move up to 160 and fight a comfortable elite boxer at 160.

                    The best active boxer in the world at that.
                    Bud needs to get in ring with nel o after bud cleans up spence, porter, Garcia maybe.
                    He needs a challenge if he cares about legacy. He needs a win that in a 100 years people say wow.
                    Pac is 8 division tutulist. Duran is smaller than bud and nearly pulled it off v hagler.
                    It's a no brainer. There is no excuse you was in a weak era. You seek the challenges out that people don't think you can do

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                      Canelo is not the same fighter Floyd fought any more. He is much bigger now, his list fight was at 175. And you want him to drain him self to 156 for somebody like Crawford? LOL.
                      Canelo, tip top, is a SMW who has the benefit to not drain for LHW. In camp for a LHW fight he’s basically optimized at 177lbs. Means worst case scenario he only needs to deplete 3lbs for water. Canelo trained and was bigger after the Fielding fight. That’s why he looked depleted against Jacobs. In the Fielding scale Canelo was also filled whereas Fielding was a drained skeleton. All these comparisons prove that Canelo is optimized at 168-175.

                      When Bivol states he would do 168 means he’s looking for a money defining fight as well as showcase his skills, but make no mistake about it, Bivol is bigger than Caleb Plant, and means Bivol would be draining for 168. It’s the same talk for when GGg said he’d fight the winner of Floyd vs PAC or saying if the fight made business sense he’d do 154. The LHWs whom have it hard for 175 are physiques like Beterbiev, Smith, Eleider, Kovalev, Yarde, whom are about 188+ on fight night. Now even Benavidez, Zurdo, Smith easily fight at LHW and imho too big for 168, but it’s their fault for wherever they choose to perform.

                      All Crawford has to do is gain muscle, change his nutrition and he’s easily a Middleweight not worrying about any drain. Crawford would float around 165lbs in camp and only need to shed 5lbs of water. Basically conforming his body like Spence and Jermell. So if Crawford really wanted Canelo I’d say a catchweight of 162lbs and the boxing world would be ok. It’s up to Canelo to make 162
                      Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 11-15-2020, 04:32 AM.

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