Would Lomachenko do better in a rematch vs TEO?

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  • Nash out
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    #11
    Why are people acting like this was a close fight! LMAO. Julie Lederman had it about right. Loma made it competitive between R8-11, the rest was one-sided. It's a fight I could never rewatch because it was just not competitive.

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    • mxtali
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      #12
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
      Yeah, but what made Loma exchange from the 6th to the 12th.

      Do you think it's because Teo's power decreased? Or Loma adjusted to Teo's power?
      I think Teo slowed down a little bit and Lomachenko got desperate which made him bring his dog out. But i don’t think Loma can fight desperate for 12 rounds. That means taking chances which is too risky for the first half against Lopez.

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      • Luilun
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        #13
        Yes because he figured him out at the end winning 5 of the last 6 rounds and I doubt he goes in wth a hurt shoulder thats why Lopez say's no rematch. Look at fighters of the past did they ever say no rematch in a close fight? Even Mayweather gave Madaina and Castillo rematches over his questionable wins

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        • R-Hand Southpaw
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          #14
          I was pretty disappointed in the game plan. After about 6 the announcers asked what was being said in Lomachenkos corner and they had said that Papachenko was telling Loma to remain patient which didn't make any sense to me because on my card he had lost 5 of the first 6 rounds.

          And let me be clear and anyone who watched it, Lopez did not dominate those rounds. He won those rounds because he was more active than Loma. Did he hurt Loma at all? No. But between his inactivity and the piss poor bias from the announcers there was no way he was gonna win those rounds.

          I think he could have turned it up sooner but was following instruction. At 135 I think as a pure boxer Lomachenko needs to grit it out. If he doesn't want that kind if fight he shouldn't be fighting at that weight. All my life I've been the smaller guy playing sports against much bigger men so my mentality is far different than his.

          Robert Garcia put it best when he said Loma needs to go to a real gym where people want to kick his ass for real.

          My biggest concern for Loma prefight was the uppercut put of the Philly stance. Turning and pivoting with a fighting who is changing the angle around you is usually death and is a huge indicator of low IQ. Lopez managed to make it work somehow and I didn't see why Loma did capitalize on that.

          Probably because Loma doesn't through solid hooks. Many of his set ups are off double jabs moving to the outside.

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            #15
            Of course he would do better. He was hurt and had surgery for it.

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              #16
              Yes I believe he would. He's very smart in the ring he would study the first fight and come back with a better strategy.

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              • BillyBoxing
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                #17
                Originally posted by Nash out
                Why are people acting like this was a close fight! LMAO. Julie Lederman had it about right. Loma made it competitive between R8-11, the rest was one-sided. It's a fight I could never rewatch because it was just not competitive.
                Because they saw a close fight, you didn't, people disagree, get over it.

                I'm open minded but "Julie Lerderman had it right", she gave Loma one round, GTFOH.

                JMM had Loma winning on the Mex TV, I think he was off, I think any card not being 6-6 or 7-5/8-4 Teo are off.

                11-1 like Lederman is r3tarded. PERIOD, worst I have seen in a while, and they have been plenty of sht cards.
                Last edited by BillyBoxing; 11-09-2020, 10:49 AM.

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                • richardt
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                  #18
                  Many scenarios could play out:

                  -Loma starts earlier and does just enough to win a few early rounds and the comes on strong to win.

                  -Loma starts earlier and gets caught while Lopez' power is still fresh and is stopped.

                  -Loma by starting earlier has burned off some energy and doesn't have the reserve he had in the first fight to be able to turn it up late and loses more of the late rounds and loses the fight or is stopped late.

                  -Or we see vintage Loma using all his resources to win a lopsided decision.

                  The biggest problem is if it goes to a decision, what Judge will turn in a score like Julie Ledderman did? It seems to happen in every big fight.

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                  • BillyBoxing
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by richardt
                    Many scenarios could play out:

                    -Loma starts earlier and does just enough to win a few early rounds and the comes on strong to win.

                    -Loma starts earlier and gets caught while Lopez' power is still fresh and is stopped.

                    -Loma by starting earlier has burned off some energy and doesn't have the reserve he had in the first fight to be able to turn it up late and loses more of the late rounds and loses the fight or is stopped late.

                    -Or we see vintage Loma using all his resources to win a lopsided decision.

                    The biggest problem is if it goes to a decision, what Judge will turn in a score like Julie Ledderman did? It seems to happen in every big fight.
                    I think Loma adjusted to that jab, figured it out, and so took more risks, that jab is what worried him.

                    But doing so he took risks and lopez hurt him in the 12th.

                    I see a rematch competitive, better start from Loma but not that much, I see Loma doing better but his chance of losing by KO increasing.
                    I see a rematch 30% Lopez decision, 30% Lopez KO, 40% Loma decision.

                    Teo will be better in a rematch, but so will Loma, both are great smart dudes.

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                    • alexnation
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                      #20
                      I totally agree that Loma lost the fight due to picking the wrong strategy but I do not think Teo BEAT Loma. He didn't really do much damage. If you look closely at rounds 9-11, you'll see that Teo had no idea what to do. Yes, he did grab the victory by bullying Loma the first half of the fight but that's about it.. I think if Loma adjusts his strategy, he can win.

                      But at the same time, he is already pushing his weight limits. Still, would love to see him try to take the belts back

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