Comments Thread For: Devin Haney Dominates Yuriorkis Gamboa For Decision Win

[I Never Lied]

Someone fights with a somewhat similar style to Mayweather and you automatically jump the conclusion he’s unstoppable. Wow. Stay off tiktok, dumbass. Lmao
You need to read up on your boxing and study more, kid. You’ll learn a thing or two. You need it because ydksab ha.

He’s nothing close to Mayweather. There is a very evident speed, power and IQ differential. I didn’t see Mayweather give little chinny guys too much respect and coast to a boring decision at lightweight. He was wrecking guys twice as good as old azz Gamboa. Stick to your day job.

Your reading comprehension is awful, did you graduate from 2nd grade?

I never compared Haney to 135lbs Floyd. Lightweight Floyd fought totally different from 150lbs Floyd. The LATE CAREER Floyd is who Haney fights similar to.

You're just too ****** to understand. Coasting to a boring decision, is exactly what Haney would do to Loepz, Garcia, Loma and Tank. You're just too ****** to see that because you equate "wrecking guys" with winning. But that's not Haney's style.

Even though you are ******, I'd still think it would be obvious that Haney is unbeatable by the simple fact, everyone is afraid to fight him.

Lopez next opponent will NOT be a better drawn than vs Haney.

Garcia next opponent will NOT be a better drawn than vs Haney.

Loma next opponent will NOT be a better drawn than vs Haney.

These guys would rather run through hell with gasoline draws on, than fight Haney.

[TheMyspaceDayz]

Your reading comprehension is awful, did you graduate from 2nd grade?

I never compared Haney to 135lbs Floyd. Lightweight Floyd fought totally different from 150lbs Floyd. The LATE CAREER Floyd is who Haney fights similar to.

You're just too ****** to understand. Coasting to a boring decision, is exactly what Haney would do to Loepz, Garcia, Loma and Tank. You're just too ****** to see that because you equate "wrecking guys" with winning. But that's not Haney's style.

Even though you are ******, I'd still think it would be obvious that Haney is unbeatable by the simple fact, everyone is afraid to fight him.

Lopez next opponent will NOT be a better drawn than vs Haney.

Garcia next opponent will NOT be a better drawn than vs Haney.

Loma next opponent will NOT be a better drawn than vs Haney.

These guys would rather run through hell with gasoline draws on, than fight Haney.

I’m now convinced you’re a troll. No one is this idiotic.

Good luck with whatever it is you think you’re doing. Good day.

[I Never Lied]

I’m now convinced you’re a troll. No one is this idiotic.

Good luck with whatever it is you think you’re doing. Good day.

You have no cogent response, because there is no way to structure an argument against what I am saying, and you know this.

Haney is not at a physical or technical disadvantage to any of those guys, you know this.

Loma, Lopez and Garcia will continue to take opponents without belts and who are worse than Haney, you know this.

[Silver Spear]

You have no cogent response, because there is no way to structure an argument against what I am saying, and you know this.

Haney is not at a physical or technical disadvantage to any of those guys, you know this.

Loma, Lopez and Garcia will continue to take opponents without belts and who are worse than Haney, you know this.

You may need to provide proof for this accusation. Since when has Loma not fought for a belt or not fought a former champ?

[Silver Spear]

No, I just find it hilarious how on a boxing forum of all places, you people cannot see why Haney is unbeatable.

Especially since we all just witnessed a late career Floyd (2010-2015) literally do the exact same thing. Floyd fought boring, methodical fights during that time....and all the fans complained...but no one came even close to beating him.

Haney is the exact same way...and if you can't see that, you are ******.

If Floyd was a fisherman, Haney would be the guy scrubbing the chum off the floors.

Floyd's IQ was developed over his entire career and over different fighting styles. Haney cannot just pick up Floyd's style from the end of his career and adopt it and be just as good. Floyd was the master of baiting people into fighting the type of fight Floyd wanted. This is what made them so "boring". In the rare occasion where his opponent was able to adjust they were exciting for the average viewer but eventually Floyd figured them out and his opponents were never able to adjust.

Haney does not have that IQ right now and if he keeps fighting this style he will never have that IQ. If Haney is find with coasting to decision wins this early on in his career then he is going to have a hard time finding opponents. Promoters want to promote fighters who put butts in the seats, not fighters who bore people to sleep.

Haney could be the best guy in the division (Rigondeaux) and yet nobody will fight him or he will never make a reasonable mark because no promoter wants to touch him. Look at how different Loma and Guillermo were managed and fought. Loma is way more known than Guillermo (regardless what you think about Loma's abilities). Guillermo was a very methodical, precise fighter. To the average fan he was boring. Now look at Loma. He made 4 straight opponents quit. To the average fan they want to see him fight and see how he does that and why his opponents quit.

Hate it or love it boxing is a business and if you cannot sell yourself, you will have a much harder time getting to where you want to be.

[I Never Lied]

If Floyd was a fisherman, Haney would be the guy scrubbing the chum off the floors.

Floyd's IQ was developed over his entire career and over different fighting styles. Haney cannot just pick up Floyd's style from the end of his career and adopt it and be just as good. Floyd was the master of baiting people into fighting the type of fight Floyd wanted. This is what made them so "boring". In the rare occasion where his opponent was able to adjust they were exciting for the average viewer but eventually Floyd figured them out and his opponents were never able to adjust.

Haney does not have that IQ right now and if he keeps fighting this style he will never have that IQ. If Haney is find with coasting to decision wins this early on in his career then he is going to have a hard time finding opponents. Promoters want to promote fighters who put butts in the seats, not fighters who bore people to sleep.

Haney could be the best guy in the division (Rigondeaux) and yet nobody will fight him or he will never make a reasonable mark because no promoter wants to touch him. Look at how different Loma and Guillermo were managed and fought. Loma is way more known than Guillermo (regardless what you think about Loma's abilities). Guillermo was a very methodical, precise fighter. To the average fan he was boring. Now look at Loma. He made 4 straight opponents quit. To the average fan they want to see him fight and see how he does that and why his opponents quit.

Hate it or love it boxing is a business and if you cannot sell yourself, you will have a much harder time getting to where you want to be.

I don't disagree with anything you said except the first part about Haney taking Floyds 2010+ style. But that's not the most important thing here....

You are 100% spot on about your assessment of Haney's boring, precise style scaring away promoters....but I also think Garcia vs Haney is a bigger drawn than Garcia vs Campbell.

Who can Loma fight next that is a bigger draw than Haney (outside of Tank and Garcia?

Who can Lopez fight next that is a bigger draw than Haney (outside of Tank and Garcia?

There is no reason for any of those guy not seek the WBC title, regardless of how boring Haney is.

None of these guys are bigger, longer or faster than Haney, so the fight will be boring and they will most certainly lose.

[Silver Spear]

I don't disagree with anything you said except the first part about Haney taking Floyds 2010+ style. But that's not the most important thing here....

You are 100% spot on about your assessment of Haney's boring, precise style scaring away promoters....but I also think Garcia vs Haney is a bigger drawn than Garcia vs Campbell.

Who can Loma fight next that is a bigger draw than Haney (outside of Tank and Garcia?

Who can Lopez fight next that is a bigger draw than Haney (outside of Tank and Garcia?

There is no reason for any of those guy not seek the WBC title, regardless of how boring Haney is.

None of these guys are bigger, longer or faster than Haney, so the fight will be boring and they will most certainly lose.

But Haney taking TMT's style is what is at stake here right? Is that not what you and that other poster were arguing about? I think Haney can do well with that style at 135 since he has a long reach and is tall. I think he needs to learn how to be effective offensively before he can adapt that style.

Once we see the numbers on Haney's fight we can determine whether or not he is a legitimate draw and worth anyone's time (if he did not have a belt).

Ryan v Campbell is a good fight and will draw because Campbell brings in the European audience. Haney does not have the same fan base as Campbell regardless who the better fighter is.

Loma from here on out really has 2 options. Fight the other top guys in the division in an attempt to become true undisputed at 135 (even if Lopez vacates and moves up before then) or go back down to 130 and hope that the top guys in the division will fight him.

Right now there are 4 top guys in the division who can fight each other and each fight would do well in terms of draw power. Haney is one of those obviously but he still has a lot to prove before he can claim #1.

[I Never Lied]

But Haney taking TMT's style is what is at stake here right? Is that not what you and that other poster were arguing about? I think Haney can do well with that style at 135 since he has a long reach and is tall. I think he needs to learn how to be effective offensively before he can adapt that style.

Once we see the numbers on Haney's fight we can determine whether or not he is a legitimate draw and worth anyone's time (if he did not have a belt).

Ryan v Campbell is a good fight and will draw because Campbell brings in the European audience. Haney does not have the same fan base as Campbell regardless who the better fighter is.

Loma from here on out really has 2 options. Fight the other top guys in the division in an attempt to become true undisputed at 135 (even if Lopez vacates and moves up before then) or go back down to 130 and hope that the top guys in the division will fight him.

Right now there are 4 top guys in the division who can fight each other and each fight would do well in terms of draw power. Haney is one of those obviously but he still has a lot to prove before he can claim #1.

The Mayweather argument came about because people were saying that Haney cruising to boring Unanimous decisions, instead of exciting knockouts, means that he would lose to Teo, Loma and Lopez.

But late career Mayweather did the exact same thing and no one could beat him.

I am basically telling you all that Lopez, Loma or Garcia are not going to out-anything Haney...they would all lose on points, in a boring fight.

Just like Mayweather did to his opps in the 2010s

[Silver Spear]

The Mayweather argument came about because people were saying that Haney cruising to boring Unanimous decisions, instead of exciting knockouts, means that he would lose to Teo, Loma and Lopez.

But late career Mayweather did the exact same thing and no one could beat him.

I am basically telling you all that Lopez, Loma or Garcia are not going to out-anything Haney...they would all lose on points, in a boring fight.

Just like Mayweather did to his opps in the 2010s

I do not see anything in Haney that have me believe he could beat Lopez. Of the 3 you mentioned I think Loma is the best skill wise but with Garcia and Lopez you have youth and natural power.

Haney would do good against any of them but I do not see him beating Lopez. Lopez showed a lot of heart in the last round against Loma and the way he was getting away with elbows earlier in the fight leads me to believe that he will be in the refs/judges favor in the future.

Haney needs to learn to use the TMT style better offensively otherwise Lopez will counter him and seriously hurt him. I need to see how Garcia does against Campbell before I can make a judgement call on how he would do against Haney.

Haney's sole advantage would be his height/length. He does not have the power to keep someone like Lopez away even with his jabs.

[I Never Lied]

I do not see anything in Haney that have me believe he could beat Lopez. Of the 3 you mentioned I think Loma is the best skill wise but with Garcia and Lopez you have youth and natural power.

Haney would do good against any of them but I do not see him beating Lopez. Lopez showed a lot of heart in the last round against Loma and the way he was getting away with elbows earlier in the fight leads me to believe that he will be in the refs/judges favor in the future.

Haney needs to learn to use the TMT style better offensively otherwise Lopez will counter him and seriously hurt him. I need to see how Garcia does against Campbell before I can make a judgement call on how he would do against Haney.

Haney's sole advantage would be his height/length. He does not have the power to keep someone like Lopez away even with his jabs.

Lopez was quicker than Loma...he's not any quicker than Haney.

Lopez was longer and taller than Loma...he's not either of these over Haney.

Haney's Jab is faaaaar better than Lopez's, and so is his defense. The punches to the middle of Lopez face, that Loma was getting off with, would NEVER happen to Haney (That's why I compare him to Mayweather)

Haney's jab is really really REALLY superior to Lopez, Loma Garcia. Haney can stay at distance and out-point all of them with his Jab. Neither of them have an athletic advantage, where they could force Haney to exchange power punches.

It feels very awkward being the only person on a Boxing forum, who has noticed these things.