Should j. Ruiz have stayed at cruiserweight?

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  • 4truth
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    #11
    Made a lot of money, got a few concussions. At 190 he would have got less of each.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
      I mean he did pretty decent at heavyweight really, multiple time champ

      Sure he was ugly to watch but so was Andre ward

      Why do I get the feeling that if John Ruiz was "Jayshaun Ruiz" from brooklyn he'd have been considered an ATG
      If your username was Earlishus Hickey'wan you'd be considered the best poster on NSB.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Mike_b
        He had a great right hand, whenever he wanted to throw it, had great stamina, tough as nails, went nip and tuck with bad intent heavyweights, took on all comers, effectively swarmed all his opponents with a form of mauling.

        He knocked out some guy on YouTube, this fight, somebody posted "John Ruiz is not being a poosie in this fight" can't remember which one it was. That shows he had power.

        Also if he stayed at 190, he wouldn't have had the opportunity of Tua playing ping pong with his head.

        And also I noticed some of his earlier fights were at cruiser. Why didn't he stay down there? He had every possible benefit and chance to have at that weight class. Strong, power, speed, height, punch, clinching smaller guys. Wth happened?
        - -U came along with a flea weight Question.

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          #14
          Originally posted by earl-hickey
          i mean he did pretty decent at heavyweight really, multiple time champ

          sure he was ugly to watch but so was andre ward

          why do i get the feeling that if john ruiz was "jayshaun ruiz" from brooklyn he'd have been considered an atg
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            #15
            Originally posted by _Rexy_
            He was Heavyweight Champion of the World, so no; he should not have stayed at Cruiser. He was successful at heavyweight. if he was ever at Cruiser I doubt anyone remembers it or even knew it. I sure didn't.
            x2 Yes, exactly

            He was a two time HW champion.

            People can say what they like, but, a title holder at HW makes more money then a cruiser. A lot more.

            Dude is a bit like a Sharkey. People under rate them because they have plenty of losses against not so great competition but that discounts who good they were when they were doing well.


            People only like records with streaks. Most guys who have a good night get their good night taken from them because of their bad nights and no one respects how good they were that night.

            Douglas, for example, boxed really well the night he KO'd Tyson.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Marchegiano
              x2 Yes, exactly

              He was a two time HW champion.

              People can say what they like, but, a title holder at HW makes more money then a cruiser. A lot more.

              Dude is a bit like a Sharkey. People under rate them because they have plenty of losses against not so great competition but that discounts who good they were when they were doing well.


              People only like records with streaks. Most guys who have a good night get their good night taken from them because of their bad nights and no one respects how good they were that night.

              Douglas, for example, boxed really well the night he KO'd Tyson.
              People do the same with Ezzard Charles. He’s got L’s so he’s a bum.

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                #17
                John Ruiz made a very respective career despite a big KO loss to Tua early in his career. Actually he had better career than Tua, lol.

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                • Nash out
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                  #18
                  He's just a forgettable fighter really. I'd say about as good as Nathan Gorman now, who's maybe top 50/top 75 in this truly great era.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Nash out
                    He's just a forgettable fighter really. I'd say about as good as Nathan Gorman now, who's maybe top 50/top 75 in this truly great era.
                    I hope you are trolling with this post, if your serious it is one of the worst posts of all time on this forum.

                    Ruiz was a boring **** but was on a different level to Nathan Gorman.

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