Why has Cuba, historically, underperformed when it comes to the pro's

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  • MoneyKasha
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    Why has Cuba, historically, underperformed when it comes to the pro's

    for being arguably the best amateur boxing country in the world, they historically have underperformed in the professional ranks. You would think they would be pumping out beasts one by one.

    Compare them to say the Post-Soviet countries (Eastern Europe plus Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan etc. ) that tend to have similar amateur programs like Cuba, but they seem to have more success in the pros

    its weird
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    Not enough experience with the rough stuff and gritty opponents.
    Last edited by TheMyspaceDayz; 11-05-2020, 08:38 PM.

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      I feel like a lot of judges don't like the Cuban style also

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        #4
        Originally posted by YoungManRumble
        I feel like a lot of judges don't like the Cuban style also
        is it possible that their style is in many ways too technical,like its a better style for the amateurs....

        it allows them to become top contenders, but maybe they lack that sort of grit that alot of E. European fighters have to take them to the extra level?

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          They get used to fighting amateur style

          See Loma and Rigo

          Most successful Cuban is Lara. He’s tough and can **** at close quarters

          Capable of taking the punishment of pro boxing

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            #6
            Originally posted by MoneyKasha
            is it possible that their style is in many ways too technical,like its a better style for the amateurs....

            it allows them to become top contenders, but maybe they lack that sort of grit that alot of E. European fighters have to take them to the extra level?
            lara has that grit and what do you know he’s the last Cuban standing

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              They often turn pro late, age catches up.

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                Originally posted by MoneyKasha
                for being arguably the best amateur boxing country in the world, they historically have underperformed in the professional ranks. You would think they would be pumping out beasts one by one.

                Compare them to say the Post-Soviet countries (Eastern Europe plus Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan etc. ) that tend to have similar amateur programs like Cuba, but they seem to have more success in the pros

                its weird
                I think it's a matter of the era. Kid Gavilan was a very famous Cuban boxer, as was Luis Rodriguez. I watched both of them and others I can't recall right now. I saw Luis Rodriguez, who had beaten Emil Griffith, well on the way to being middleweight champ, although only a welterweight, against a very top Champ Nino Benvenuti. In the 13th rd, Luiz walked straight into a punch he didn't see and was KOd.

                There was Jose Napoles, Joel Casamayor, Florentino Fernandez a massive puncher. Sugar Ramos was another, and I think Kid Chocolate was an early champion from Cuba also. I'm sure there were others. I just can think of them but except for kid Chocolate I saw all the above when they fought on TV film.. I particularly liked Luis Rodriguez, was a real warrior would fight a heavyweight if he had to.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MoneyKasha
                  for being arguably the best amateur boxing country in the world, they historically have underperformed in the professional ranks. You would think they would be pumping out beasts one by one.

                  Compare them to say the Post-Soviet countries (Eastern Europe plus Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan etc. ) that tend to have similar amateur programs like Cuba, but they seem to have more success in the pros

                  its weird
                  Jose Napoles, the welterweight champion from Cuba was the best fighter I ever saw.

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                  • mike1010011
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                    Speaking as a Cuban american,these guys have the amateur style ingrained into them. It's all about just scoring points,and not actually entertaining or going for the finish. Not to mention that these guys easily have 200-400 amature fights before they even get over here. That's wear and tear on the tires,in addition to the fact that barely any of them get to come over here when they're still young. If you would have taken someone like rigo or lara who have both shown that they can pop when they want,and taught them a more aggressive fan friendly style,they'd be far more successful in the pro game.

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