Is Crawford as skilled as Floyd was?

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  • Roadblock
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    #21
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
    Glad you brought up his resume, because there is no one on there who stacks up against a prime Crawford. Not one elite at their best.
    I think there is a number of guys on Floyds resume that would give TC hell, Terrence hasnt shown where he is at to now because he hasnst fought anyone, I understand that you just want to hate on Floyd but be somewhat real, Cotto Mosley Manny Oscar Hatton JMM would go through TC resumes like a dose of salts.

    And I fully see that TC is an elite fighter but he hasnt fought anyone worth a dam thus far.

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    • NearHypnos
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      #22
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
      Floyd never fought a prime opponent with Bud’s skills. Floyd is a better defensive fighter, but when we talk whole package, neither man has fought an elite level fighter at their best. I still don’t think Floyd would ever get in the ring with a prime Crawford. He certainly wouldn’t get in the ring with prime Mosley or Pac.

      Bud is a better boxer than Corrales and Castillo. Corrales was weight drained and coming off bronchitis and Castillo was robbed, and still Bud would do better than either of them from 135-147, even 154.
      Bud only seems effective because he’s fighting over opponents. It’s easy to look greatly skilled in that sense.

      Look, if Floyd was strategic in getting guys considered has beens or past prime, Bud is fighting guys that never were.


      You’re assuming all this bud stuff without Bud actually having fought that level. That’s where the argument is flawed. One man walked it, the other hasn’t in his own era.

      What was Pac’s prime? Pre drug test request or post?

      Look, a young Canelo, an older Pac (though Floyd is older so that doesn't even work), an older Oscar, older Shane, older Cotto, zab “dont ever play with matches” judah, weight drained Corrales, “overrated”(insert your own negative) Ricky Hatton, “robbed” Castillo, overmatched Robert Guerrero, bloated JMM, etc etc. Bud doesnt have a SINGLE better win than ANY of those. He’s got zero signature wins. Gamboa maybe

      And the way Bud has looked at 47... he 100% doesnt get through the 47+ guys undefeated. If you go life and death with a never was cripple in Benavidez, even Guerrero would have put it on him.

      Floyd could beat Bud right *now* and it stilll wouldnt be in the top 5 best fighters he ever beat.

      Lets get real here. This is as a Bud fan and a borderline Floyd hater. Bud doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt because he looks like a killer agains Jeff Horn.

      The cold hard truth is Bud would do the same thing against Floyd that hes doing against the top 5 of the division today - absolutely nothing. Wouldnt get the fight made because of “Top Rank”.

      Can’t call a dude a duck because you like to add negatives to all his wins but the other guy doesnt even have notable wins to even criticize.

      This is like a bum ass dude with no job waiting at a bus stop hating on a dude for “just” having a 3 series BMW that he bought himself
      Last edited by NearHypnos; 11-05-2020, 01:49 AM.

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      • TJ highway
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        #23
        Bud Crawford never rushes when dissecting an opponent. He is a master technician in the ring. He can punch for power in both hands and often switches back and forth between orthodox and southpaw stances.

        His offense is enhanced by his ability to move his head and upper body to elude punches while moving forward at this opponent. This causes him gain great punching angles. At the same time while decreasing his opponents’ counter punching opportunities. Bud will often lead with a straight left hand from the southpaw stance. This often leaves opponents confused. All in all, the average fan has a tendency to underrate the offense of Crawford. However, his opponents will attest to the high-powered arsenal Terence Crawford possesses.

        Ability To Counter

        Despite a natural tendency to be aggressive, Crawford has the ability of a natural counter puncher. His elusiveness allows him to make opponents miss. He is then able to make them regret every errant punch they throw.

        Crawford’s weapon of choice when counter punching is the uppercut. He is often seen ducking under a punch thrown at him only to quickly return fire with an uppercut.

        His ability to jump into orthodox to southpaw and visa versa is unreal.


        Today Froid loses to Bud-Big Time.

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        • JakeTheBoxer
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          #24
          Hell no. Crawford was hit too much by somebody like Kavaliauskas.

          Welterweight Floyd would beat him easily.

          No chance Crawford would go undefeated through Floyd`s record at 147.

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          • Carpe Diem
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            #25
            Originally posted by TJ highway
            Bud Crawford never rushes when dissecting an opponent. He is a master technician in the ring. He can punch for power in both hands and often switches back and forth between orthodox and southpaw stances.

            His offense is enhanced by his ability to move his head and upper body to elude punches while moving forward at this opponent. This causes him gain great punching angles. At the same time while decreasing his opponents’ counter punching opportunities. Bud will often lead with a straight left hand from the southpaw stance. This often leaves opponents confused. All in all, the average fan has a tendency to underrate the offense of Crawford. However, his opponents will attest to the high-powered arsenal Terence Crawford possesses.

            Ability To Counter

            Despite a natural tendency to be aggressive, Crawford has the ability of a natural counter puncher. His elusiveness allows him to make opponents miss. He is then able to make them regret every errant punch they throw.

            Crawford’s weapon of choice when counter punching is the uppercut. He is often seen ducking under a punch thrown at him only to quickly return fire with an uppercut.

            His ability to jump into orthodox to southpaw and visa versa is unreal.


            Today Froid loses to Bud-Big Time.
            So you think a 43 year-old Floyd losing to Crawford is some type of accomplishment and something to be proud of?

            Crawford has all those abilities, but he’s still a tier below Floyd in all of them. The one other thing that stands out clear as day to me is their punching accuracy, Crawford is nowhere near the precise sharpshooter that Floyd was. The ability to create openings and landing on the fly with ease is something that Crawford doesn’t have in his arsenal.

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            • TJ highway
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              #26
              Originally posted by Carpe Diem
              So you think a 43 year-old Floyd losing to Crawford is some type of accomplishment and something to be proud of?

              Crawford has all those abilities, but he’s still a tier below Floyd in all of them. The one other thing that stands out clear as day to me is their punching accuracy, Crawford is nowhere near the precise sharpshooter that Floyd was. The ability to create openings and landing on the fly with ease is something that Crawford doesn’t have in his arsenal.
              Every other day Froid fans make up ****** thread's about your boy.

              Not my fault if you don't like what you hear. Froid is retired Bud Crawford is not.

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                #27
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                Floyd never fought a prime opponent with Bud’s skills. Floyd is a better defensive fighter, but when we talk whole package, neither man has fought an elite level fighter at their best. I still don’t think Floyd would ever get in the ring with a prime Crawford. He certainly wouldn’t get in the ring with prime Mosley or Pac.

                Bud is a better boxer than Corrales and Castillo. Corrales was weight drained and coming off bronchitis and Castillo was robbed, and still Bud would do better than either of them from 135-147, even 154.
                Crawford wouldn’t get in the ring with any version Floyd

                Crawford hasn’t faced one very good opponent yet let alone a great opponent

                Floyd beat great fighters sometimes handing out boxing lessons

                Crawford would pull a Timmeh Bradley. Keeping Floyd’s name out their mouths
                Last edited by GrandpaBernard; 11-05-2020, 10:32 PM.

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                  #28
                  I don’t see Crawford doing as well IF he ever faces the level of opponents Floyd beat

                  Floyd gave a high ranking ATG like manny a boxing lesson. Other ATGs like Barrera and Morales couldn’t do it. It took Marquez 3 tries

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                  • HewJohnson
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                    #29
                    We don’t know.

                    Crawford hasn’t fought an elite opponent.

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                    • Ochoa780
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                      #30
                      What..? Crawford isnt even close to being the best welterweight of HIS time lol.. dude hasnt even beaten one of the best welterweights of his time.. to compare him skill wise to any top welterweight in history is bananas 😂

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