Comments Thread For: Joshua: Wilder Admitted It, We Made Him a Lucrative Offer

[Sid-Knee]

You still ducked him and Fury before that and would mention they had more experience than you. You wanted him after Fury exposed some flaws. If you had some character you’d let this one go and not try to con people. You have Hearn to do it for you anyway.

Wilder was the one ducking every step of the way. The world knows this. Your delusion won't change any of this.

But when did AJ duck Fury? Dates? Time?

[Fire4231]

Deflecting is a nice sign of your defeat you absolute coward.

Lol... coward you take it up the shoot.
You win nothing. Because you're nothing. If nothing is greater than the whole lot of UK mouth feeders

Now smell my cheese.

you corny @ss bastard more porridge please @$$ Oliver Twist as clown. Hearn bot.

[Jkp]

Yea right
Wilder fanboys still Butt hurt that their star got Koed......
Lolololol

I'm more a fan of fury than Wilder.
But respect both for making the fight, and getting in the ring twice to battle for #1 spot like true champions.

[Sid-Knee]

you corny @ss bastard more porridge please @$$ Oliver trust as clown. Hearn bot.

The UK that is dominating you? The UK that you're obsessed with in a very unhealthy way? The UK that is your master?

Keep on lavishing attention to your superiors. You clearly have nothing else going on in your worthless excuse of a life. Just keep spending your "Life" coming here every day writing the same madness you have for years. That will show us. Haha.

[Clegg]

Wilder and Ortiz both ducked AJ so they could face each other over and over again until they die and go to PBC heaven and rematch even more. And dozens of their biased fans spent the last 2 years on here telling us the complete opposite

[Bronx2245]

One is an ATG and super star in the sport. The other is a Z list bum without a single win on his record to this day. A Z lister who couldn't generate a turd on a string, while the star generated millions.

Stop this ridiculous delusion now. Stop embarrassing yourself.

April 16, 2016:

The games being played and why it means Joshua-Wilder won't be next

Dan Rafael
ESPN

If Joshua (21-0, 20 KOs) wants the fight with Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) next, it sure doesn't seem that way, regardless of what he says. It's clear in the offer Joshua's promoter, Matchroom Boxing's Eddie Hearn, recently made to the Wilder camp: a flat fee of $12.5 million, take it or leave it, for Wilder's participation in the fight.

Of course, $12.5 million large is giant money for most people, but for a fight of this magnitude, it is not a serious offer. If Wilder's team -- managers Al Haymon, Shelly Finkel and Jay Deas and promoter Lou DiBella -- accepted the deal, they would be committing malpractice on behalf of their client.

For Team Joshua to take Wilder as a $12.5 million expense without cutting him in for a large percentage of an event that could generate in the high eight figures is a joke. When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event. Wilder is worth more than that, obviously; he brings the last piece of the undisputed title to the table, he brings a bigger fan base and, on his own, he generates more money than Parker does.

If Parker is worth a third, Wilder is easily worth at least that much and probably even a few more points. His side has stated it knows it's not getting 50-50 and hasn't asked for it, but to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.

A little history lesson: When we were bogged down in the will-they-or-won't-they nonsense of the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao saga, Mayweather at one point offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. That's monster money, but not in the context of that event. Pacquiao rightfully said no. When the fight was finally made, Pacquiao got 40 percent of the pie and earned well over $100 million.

Joshua-Wilder is the exact same situation but for less money. Wilder and his team would be foolish to accept such a laughable offer, and Joshua's camp knows it -- which is why, at this point, all talk the of Joshua-Wilder being next is nothing more than a game boxing fans are not interested in playing.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ean-fight-next

[Sid-Knee]

April 16, 2016:

The games being played and why it means Joshua-Wilder won't be next

Dan Rafael
ESPN

If Joshua (21-0, 20 KOs) wants the fight with Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) next, it sure doesn't seem that way, regardless of what he says. It's clear in the offer Joshua's promoter, Matchroom Boxing's Eddie Hearn, recently made to the Wilder camp: a flat fee of $12.5 million, take it or leave it, for Wilder's participation in the fight.

Of course, $12.5 million large is giant money for most people, but for a fight of this magnitude, it is not a serious offer. If Wilder's team -- managers Al Haymon, Shelly Finkel and Jay Deas and promoter Lou DiBella -- accepted the deal, they would be committing malpractice on behalf of their client.

For Team Joshua to take Wilder as a $12.5 million expense without cutting him in for a large percentage of an event that could generate in the high eight figures is a joke. When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event. Wilder is worth more than that, obviously; he brings the last piece of the undisputed title to the table, he brings a bigger fan base and, on his own, he generates more money than Parker does.

If Parker is worth a third, Wilder is easily worth at least that much and probably even a few more points. His side has stated it knows it's not getting 50-50 and hasn't asked for it, but to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.

A little history lesson: When we were bogged down in the will-they-or-won't-they nonsense of the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao saga, Mayweather at one point offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. That's monster money, but not in the context of that event. Pacquiao rightfully said no. When the fight was finally made, Pacquiao got 40 percent of the pie and earned well over $100 million.

Joshua-Wilder is the exact same situation but for less money. Wilder and his team would be foolish to accept such a laughable offer, and Joshua's camp knows it -- which is why, at this point, all talk the of Joshua-Wilder being next is nothing more than a game boxing fans are not interested in playing.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ean-fight-next

Who cares what this fat joke has to say?

Wilder was and is a nobody. Just because AJ generates mass money doesn't mean any tom **** or harry can get a massive payday when they don't deserve it. Never in history has a huge A side given such a nobody a big split due to having a worthless bauble. Wilder didn't and still doesn't have a single good win on his resume. When in history has that happened?

As for the comments on Wilder and his side not asking for 50/50... Well that's another lie. Wilder and his side were saying 50/50 a long time before this and refused to fight unless they got it. They just had to make it look like they would fight but then accuse Hearn of messing around so they could put on a show of anger to start the character assassination to make the public feel they were being wronged and then demand 50/50. The delusional freaks even said he was worth 60%, but for the fans, he'd fight for 50/50. That's how twisted all this got. Now he's started on Fury and even his own team. The creature is evil and a coward to his core.

I hope Wilder is sent packing from the sport after being maimed. His darkness alongside his creepy followers need to GTFOOH. Poison and nothing but poison is all they have brought. Good riddance when the time comes.

[Bronx2245]

Who cares what this fat joke has to say?

Wilder was and is a nobody. Just because AJ generates mass money doesn't mean any tom **** or harry can get a massive payday when they don't deserve it. Never in history has a huge A side given such a nobody a big split due to having a worthless bauble. Wilder didn't and still doesn't have a single good win on his resume. When in history has that happened?

As for the comments on Wilder and his side not asking for 50/50... Well that's another lie. Wilder and his side were saying 50/50 a long time before this and refused to fight unless they got it. They just had to make it look like they would fight but then accuse Hearn of messing around so they could put on a show of anger to start the character assassination to make the public feel they were being wronged and then demand 50/50. The delusional freaks even said he was worth 60%, but for the fans, he'd fight for 50/50. That's how twisted all this got. Now he's started on Fury and even his own team. The creature is evil and a coward to his core.

I hope Wilder is sent packing from the sport after being maimed. His darkness alongside his creepy followers need to GTFOOH. Poison and nothing but poison is all they have brought. Good riddance when the time comes.

According to the article, Joseph Parker got a split, and he was not even on the level of Wilder! Anyway, the point is Wilder did get a bigger offer to fight Joshua, but he went with Fury! However, like Dan showed, it would've been "malpractice for Wilder to accept a "flat-fee!" Even DAZN's John Skipper admitted he could've done things differently:

November 23, 2019:

In an interview with LANCE PUGMIRE of the ATHLETIC.com DAZN Executive chairman John Skipper was quoted as saying:

“In retrospect, I was too brash going in there without creating the relationships I needed to create with the people who advised Deontay Wilder. I have now worked to do that. It has to do with going back to the education I needed before getting into boxing … When we left that (Wilder) meeting, I KNEW WE MESSED UP and that we weren’t going to be successful (Wilder)

John Skipper went on to say QUOTE:

“We were IMPATIENT, and after having some early success, we wanted to MOVE QUICKLY. Now I understand that I’ve got to work relationships, work within a framework and understand other peoples’ self-interests and needs as well … If I had to do it again, I’d have gone in and said, ‘I’m playing the long game.’ I’m playing the long game with Canelo and GGG, too.”.

https://www.************.com/2019/11...y-wilder-deal/

[Ake-Dawg]

Really thought the whole point was for him to fight Joshua? Why not jump right in? Your story is suspect.

I believe something shady is going on between Fury and Wilder camps. I think they are colluding.

However, just based on whats happening, why is it ok to certain fans from a certain geographic location that Fury is deciding to not fight the trilogy. The rematch clause expiring doesn't require that Fury fight someone else.

[Blackstarr]

I'm more a fan of fury than Wilder.
But respect both for making the fight, and getting in the ring twice to battle for #1 spot like true champions.

In my opinion, the only person deserving credit in this scenario was Fury for stepping up to expose the hype while clearly unfit. For Wilder, this was just another cherry pick based on Fury’s long layoff and two farcical tune ups against no hopers.

Fury wasn’t even ranked when Wilder decided to face him, and AJ was consensus #1 by all rating panels at the time prior to his loss against Ruiz, so declining AJ to fight Fury for the 2nd time was nothing to do with battling for the #1 spot.

I would’ve said fair play to Wilder for fighting Fury again after being outclassed in the 1st, but then again he only did this in an attempt to freeze out AJ and ended up cutting off his nose to spite his face. And there you have it.