Usyk not big or strong enough to trouble the true Heavyweights

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  • TMLT87
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    #11
    I think he has a decent shot against the B tier guys like Povetkin and Whyte. Fury would toy with him, hes got more of a chance vs Joshua but probably gets caught eventually.

    Stylistically Gassiev might actually have more potential at HW because of his power. He would have probably sparked Chisora out.

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      #12
      Originally posted by TMLT87
      I think he has a decent shot against the B tier guys like Povetkin and Whyte. Fury would toy with him, hes got more of a chance vs Joshua but probably gets caught eventually.

      Stylistically Gassiev might actually have more potential at HW because of his power. He would have probably sparked Chisora out.
      Gassiev must face a heavyweight guy first.

      I think Usyk beats Povetkin and Whyte.

      But he is there to fight Joshua/Fury or at least Parker or Dubois for vacant WBO belt.

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #13
        I don't think a Olympic Gold Medalist and Undisputed Cruiser-weight champion 'Will go into any fight, with the mindset, that he cannot win'.

        But for sure? Usyk is not as good as HE thinks he is 'In terms of physicality and skill set'.

        People keep mentioning SIZE 'Even analyzing his skill-set, he is nothing out of this world'.

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        • Marchegiano
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          #14
          Honestly I reckon he just fights like a little guy.


          They say TF fights like a small guy but really what they mean is they're impressed with Fury's speed and other usually associated with small man attributes. Fury neither guards nor stances, he does not throw or move, almost nothing like a small man because he fights big. He's fast, that's what they mean by "like a LW"

          Usyk is actually all tucked up like a ****ing LW, he allows ranges like a ****ing LW. He punches and moves like a ****ing LW. He's like a slow LW instead of a fast HW. He has it backwards and a dude like Fury will show him quick fast.


          I think currently any HW with competent ranged skills walks through Usyk.

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            #15
            Originally posted by dan_cov
            No he wasn't at all.

            Maybe people need to rewatch the fight because there was plenty of times were Usyk was pushing Chisora back. Easily tying him up & walking him backwards.

            Not too mention Chisora is easily one of the strongest and most physical fighters at HW.
            Just watched the fight again. Chisora wasn't pushing Usyk back but he was landing hooks inside and Usyk didn't have much of an answer. He didn't look like he knew how to fight Chisora inside and looked to just hold.

            For a P4P fighter Usyk took way to many punches from a slow as hell Chisora. In round 2 he got hit with about 6 within 30 seconds and look clearly rattled
            Last edited by Dakuwaqa; 11-03-2020, 03:45 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
              Just watched the fight again. Chisora wasn't pushing Usyk back but he was landing hooks inside and Usyk didn't have much of an answer. I also didn't look like he knew how to fight Chisora and looked to just hold.

              For a P4P fighter Usyk took way to many punches from a slow as hell Chisora. In round 2 he got hit with about 6 within 30 seconds and look clearly rattled
              Usyk has under par inside fighting capabilities.

              Everything is mostly from long range 'I don't really see him launching many attacks from mid-rage ether'.

              I have no idea as to why? He is considered a pound for pound fighter 'In terms of pure boxing ability, he is not that level of a fighter'.

              But once again 'I commend him for giving the heavyweight division a go'.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Century Tuna
                I think he doesn't really believe he can beat Fury or Joshua, but wants a big payday before leaving the game. If he was a couple inches taller he'd be a massive threat but he's not
                Fury, no. Half a foot height and reach advantage, with Fury's skill, is just too much. But as for the others...he's fought and beat genuine heavyweights that were 6'5 and above in the WSB. Joe Joyce and Junior Fa are among his victims. As well as running rings around Klitschko in sparring for nearly a decade.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
                  He was getting manhandled by Chisora in the clinch. It was borderline rag dolled.

                  He gives beaten up by many of the top guys
                  And what fight were you watching? When it was a straight up clinch, it was Usyk pushing Chisora back. The only time Chisora looked better in the clinch was when he'd tie Usyk's arm up and would throw a quick succession of sloppy punches with the other hand.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Squared.Circle
                    And what fight were you watching? When it was a straight up clinch, it was Usyk pushing Chisora back. The only time Chisora looked better in the clinch was when he'd tie Usyk's arm up and would throw a quick succession of sloppy punches with the other hand.
                    Let it go mate, just let it go.

                    Chisora in some ways has exposed Usyk 'His skills and abilities are not as deep as some people believed'.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
                      Just watched the fight again. Chisora wasn't pushing Usyk back but he was landing hooks inside and Usyk didn't have much of an answer. He didn't look like he knew how to fight Chisora inside and looked to just hold.

                      For a P4P fighter Usyk took way to many punches from a slow as hell Chisora. In round 2 he got hit with about 6 within 30 seconds and look clearly rattled
                      Ignore my previous comment lol

                      The work Chisora did on the inside was just an attempt at roughhousing. There was nothing serious there and Usyk never looked trouble. He'd just stay low, keep his chin tucked, and weather the mini storm. Besides the minor roughhouse tactics in clinched and the three or four overhand rights that Chisora landed, Usyk had it his own way. I think there was one punch in the entire fight that actually caught Usyk's attention, and even then, it didn't trouble him.

                      I see Usyk doing much better in the division than a lot of people think.

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