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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #41
    Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
    He should go back to cruiserweight, there's nothing for him amongst the big boys
    Man, what are you talking about. heavyweight division is one of glamour divisions. There is money also. Great fighters should chase greatness. He already beat all of them at cruiserweight.
    Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 11-02-2020, 10:54 AM.

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    • Boxing Goat
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      #42
      Originally posted by Get em up
      Usyk has the gas tank to out box most heavyweights I just wonder what he will do when one of the truly big hitters land clean on him. From what I saw Saturday night he may be fun to watch at heavy because there is still questions. I'm no big time Usyk fan I've not bought into the Isyk train but he has intrigued me now.
      Chisora is a big puncher and he landed clean several times. Usyk was never buzzed to the head.

      That said, AJ and Wilder can KO anyone and Usyk or even Fury is no exception.

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      • Boxing Goat
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        #43
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
        The only question is, can Usyk take a hard heavyweight punch. If he can, he can beat all of them, in theory.
        He took several clean shots from Chisora so I think that he can

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          #44
          Originally posted by el***
          This, hes a well rounded under 220 lbs heavyweight. In todays world his weight is still a cruiserweight with the 220 lb limit and a basic water cut.

          You CAN still compete at the top level under 220 lbs as wilder showed us but you have to have some kind of equalizer, some attributes that are way above average, wilder has insane power and reach.

          Being well rounded with low power is not enough. AJ is well rounded, fury is well rounded, and they are much bigger, larger reach, punch harder, have the stamina for 12 rounds ect.

          Usyk can compete in the top 10 which is a good accomplishment but he wont break into the top 3.
          despite KOing Joshua, Ruiz Jr has low power too. Enough punches to the right spot will still drop someone.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Fighter78
            My advice to this guy is to stay away from Anthony Joshua.....its just gonna kill his confidence when he gets knocked out brutally
            Lol!

            AJ is the end goal so that's happening if he still he the belts. Clearly. He already is the mandatory ffs

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              #46
              Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
              Is Usyk an exceptional boxer? Of course...however name for me one successful Heavyweight champion in the history of boxing that wasn’t also a KO beast. There hasn’t been any....other than maybe Spinks (we saw how long that lasted until he met an actual KO artist). There will never be a “pure boxer” HW champion that doesn’t posses KO power. Its never happened and Usyk won’t be the one to do it either. No one is afraid of his power at HW. Chisora was easy to dodge. Wait until he faces a HW that doesn’t throw looping wild shots.

              As to his gas tank? Wait until he faces an actual skilled HW that can corner him and then lay on him for 8 rounds with all his weight. Think the man will have that same gas tank? This isn’t CW. These are 240+ lb men.
              Fail right away (bolded)

              Ali, Holmes are two all time examples

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                #47
                Originally posted by _Rexy_
                despite KOing Joshua, Ruiz Jr has low power too. Enough punches to the right spot will still drop someone.
                Agreed.

                Ruiz's hand speed and counter punching was the key to beating an underprepared AJ. Not really his 1 punch power or anything

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                • factsarenice
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                  Everyone calls Whyte a useless glass jawed bum who was overrated until they can use him in an argument to support a hipsters favorite.

                  I see how it is


                  The fact that people flip narratives when convenient is about winning short term. They lack integrity, commitment and honesty while compromising the truth until one day they can no longer tell the truth. It's a package deal, it's one of those unseen laws like gravity and very pertinent to what the US is going through right now.

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                  • Ant1979
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                    #49
                    I think he can make top 5. He's not got the length of levers to outbox Fury and will struggle to keep the other top guys off from mauling him due to a lack of genuine power at heavyweight. He's not as elusive as I thought he would be at heavyweight either.

                    Usyk is in his prime and he struggled at times to get a points win against a post prime Chisora. A prime Haye had the power to blast out a prime Chisora in 5, that was a telling difference coming up from Cruiser.
                    Last edited by Ant1979; 11-02-2020, 12:36 PM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER
                      You understand this is prize fighting right ? The objective is to grab the biggest pay day ,why would anyone run away from a Joshua fight unless they’re scared ? ( insert some names here ) Usyk isn’t expected to win it wouldn’t hurt anything .
                      These guys seem to be forgetting that Usyk moved up with the sole intention of enforcing his mandatory and facing Joshua lol

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