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  • Squared.Circle
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    #31
    I'll say it in this thread too, Usyk was running rings around Klitschko in sparring for the best part of a decade. He easily beat big guys like Joe Joyce and Junior Fa in the WSB. This whole "they're just too big" evidently doesn't ring true. As for the strength aspect, whatever you think of Chisora, he's a strong guy. Look what happened when he and Usyk clinched...Usyk was the one pushing him back. So strength doesn't appear to be that much of an issue. No power? He clearly got to Chisora in two or three occasions in that fight, and Chisora has some solid whiskers. The only thing really in question is, can he take a punch from the guys that have proven time and time again that they carry heavier hands than most.

    I think Usyk would beat Parker hands down. Hughie Fury showed that Parker struggled with lateral movement. I'm confident he would beat Ruiz who has also showed he's no good at cutting off the ring. He'd outbox Povetkin, but if he gets caught with one of those left hands then he's in trouble. Tyson Fury would just be a mismatch purely due to the size. AJ would more than likely end up catching him with a big combination in the later rounds and Wilder...sorry...but he's just shyt and would get outboxed in a similar fashion to Ortiz 2. If Usyk landed one of the same punches that affected Chisora (and he would, Wilder has terrible defence), chinny Wilder wouldn't have a towel to blame.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Squared.Circle
      I'll say it in this thread too, Usyk was running rings around Klitschko in sparring for the best part of a decade. He easily beat big guys like Joe Joyce and Junior Fa in the WSB. This whole "they're just too big" evidently doesn't ring true. As for the strength aspect, whatever you think of Chisora, he's a strong guy. Look what happened when he and Usyk clinched...Usyk was the one pushing him back. So strength doesn't appear to be that much of an issue. No power? He clearly got to Chisora in two or three occasions in that fight, and Chisora has some solid whiskers. The only thing really in question is, can he take a punch from the guys that have proven time and time again that they carry heavier hands than most.

      I think Usyk would beat Parker hands down. Hughie Fury showed that Parker struggled with lateral movement. I'm confident he would beat Ruiz who has also showed he's no good at cutting off the ring. He'd outbox Povetkin, but if he gets caught with one of those left hands then he's in trouble. Tyson Fury would just be a mismatch purely due to the size. AJ would more than likely end up catching him with a big combination in the later rounds and Wilder...sorry...but he's just shyt and would get outboxed in a similar fashion to Ortiz 2. If Usyk landed one of the same punches that affected Chisora (and he would, Wilder has terrible defence), chinny Wilder wouldn't have a towel to blame.
      This basically sums it up .

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        #33
        Originally posted by Fighter78
        My advice to this guy is to stay away from Anthony Joshua.....its just gonna kill his confidence when he gets knocked out brutally
        You understand this is prize fighting right ? The objective is to grab the biggest pay day ,why would anyone run away from a Joshua fight unless they’re scared ? ( insert some names here ) Usyk isn’t expected to win it wouldn’t hurt anything .
        Last edited by REDEEMER; 11-02-2020, 10:07 AM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
          He should go back to cruiserweight, there's nothing for him amongst the big boys
          Money? Recognition? Fame? Attempt at greatness?

          He's already done everything at CW. This is the normal progression.

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            #35
            Originally posted by landotter
            Except the chance to stamp himself as an all time great with an upset or two, much larger paychecks, bigger spotlights, a chance to prove the boxing world wrong, and huge challenges a natural competitor like Usyk needs to keep himself motivated and at his peak in the last few years of his career.

            Yep. Your right. He should go back to the division he has already unified and cleaned out once in near obscurity.
            Great Post. David Haye said without his help in training, he would have gotten stopped as he helped Chisora with defense, etc.

            Man, I tried to give Green K for this post and think I gave red by mistake. If so, I do apologize.

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              #36
              Originally posted by sammybee
              Even Whyte can trouble Usyk (anyone) with his power and size.
              I fixed that for you. Whyte gave AJ almost all he could handle as well.

              Usyk would easily beat Whyte as well.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                He will be remembered as a guy who got brutally ktfo in a routine defence
                He was easily winning the fight tho and had dropped Pov

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SN!PER
                  He has no power to keep the big guys off of him.

                  He's a knockout waiting to happen.
                  I bet you couldn't convince Chisora of that.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by FeFist
                    Chisora isn't a good yard stick.

                    I do believe he is too small for the giants of the division, but they will afford him more time and space.
                    Huh? Chisora is 6'1.5" and in the 250's. He's a big man.

                    Everyone is a lost smaller than Fury so not sure why it matters.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Fighter78
                      My advice to this guy is to stay away from Anthony Joshua.....its just gonna kill his confidence when he gets knocked out brutally
                      Usyk is there to get big fight. Fury, Joshua or at least Parker or Dubois for vacant WBO title.

                      It is prizefighting, there is zero point fighting mediocre guys.

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