Is Lomachenko Done/Figured Out? Does He Beat Haney?

[TheBoxGod]

I won't say he's done, he was figured out by Salido but no one has been able to successfully push lomachenko back till Lopez.

[GhostofDempsey]

Yeah done or figured out doesn't really characterize where he's at now, I think.
I think physically and maybe mentally as well, he is less than he was a year ago. Over 400 fights, the training, the focus, moving up weight classes, employing his style, I believe has taken its toll.
Much like Breadman commented, I think there's a chance he just retires. It appears he is on the decline. He's passed his peak. Father time is knocking.

Can he still win ? Of course, he was that good. Younger, tough, bigger guys ? ..... not so sure ---

I notice whenever a fighter goes from fighting 3 or 4 times per year down to just 1 or 2, they lose their edge. Their reflexes aren't the same, their endurance isn't the same. This is what happened with GGG too.

[Mammoth]

There are a few fighters I'd pick to beat him at lightweight, Haney included.

It'd be like saying Tank is a bum just because 140 would be too much and Prograis would push his shit in at the weight. He wouldn't really be a bum, would he? He'd just be operating outside of where he should be.

[CauliflowerEars]

I notice whenever a fighter goes from fighting 3 or 4 times per year down to just 1 or 2, they lose their edge. Their reflexes aren't the same, their endurance isn't the same. This is what happened with GGG too.

Yep. I always wanted Loma to continue fighting 4X a year. He wasn't going to have a large window for a professional career anyway, so I thought it a little pointless to go down to 1X or 2x. Would have been nice to finish with more like 25 fights.
The Covid virus pandemic didn't do older pro athletes a favor, either.

[CauliflowerEars]

There are a few fighters I'd pick to beat him at lightweight, Haney included.

It'd be like saying Tank is a bum just because 140 would be too much and Prograis would push his shit in at the weight. He wouldn't really be a bum, would he? He'd just be operating outside of where he should be.

Yeah his strength, stamina, skills, are no longer making up for any reach or size disadvantages. He can't be the smallest guy in the ring anymore...imo

[sicko]

I think going back down to 130 is the best move for him! Haney at 135...Haney is a BIG 135, he is bigger than Teofimo and I think he is more skilled overall thanTeofimo but doesn't have the Power that Teofimo has of course

Loma still a Top P4P Fighter but just too small for 135, I think 130 you will see Loma as his best once again

[whollisboxing]

Good post...

I wanna at least see Haney fight someone credible before we put him in with Teofimo, Loma, Tank etc.

Who would you consider a credible opponent for Devin Haney after Gamboa? Jorge Linares? Javier Fortuna? Richard Commey?

I think each of those guys would be a step up from Gamboa.

[whollisboxing]

I mostly agree with you, but did Lomachenko purposely start slower because he "wanted to" give up rounds and wait out Lopez, or was it that he was being controlled, and simply couldn't figure out how to get in. I mean, Lomachenko never had this problem before the Neofimo fight, so it makes most sense to me that Teofimo Lopez neutralized Lomachenko for the first 7 or 8 rounds. THEN, Lomachenko said screw it I'm going inside the pocket and going to trade with Fimo. Not to mention that Lomachenko didn't start coming forward, in the second-half of the fight, until Teofimo clearly started showing some focus issues and stamina issues, which may have been caused by "the in the clench punching" and blatant head butting.

I don't think Lomachenko or any fighter would purposely give up the first 6-7 rounds so yes, I do believe that Teofimo Lopez had a lot to do with Loma's slow start. I thought Teo did a great job of throwing a straight right to the body without over-commiting as Loma circled away and that banked him the early rounds.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Who would you consider a credible opponent for Devin Haney after Gamboa? Jorge Linares? Javier Fortuna? Richard Commey?

I think each of those guys would be a step up from Gamboa.

All 3 work for me mate... You could probably throw the winner of Garcia/Campbell in that mix too.

I think Fortuna is the mandatory so that can hopefully be next.

[BodyBagz]

Loma won't be giving rds away again, that much is certain.