WBC Super Heavy weight

**REDEEMER** · 10-26-2020, 09:14 PM

Marciano only fought a handful of guys over 200 he’s hardly a measuring stick . I’m for the weight class ,you can’t go off once in awhile guys to come along to keep an outdated weight cutoff . If Marciano had to fend off giants weighing over 230 fight to fight he would have a short career going by today’s standards . Not sure what selective picking fights does ? The weight class would be measured on ones career as a whole not someone about 200 /210 pounds having a successful fight on the night . Holyfield lost two Bowe fights ,he only won when he was at his heaviest in the three fights .

The Wilder fight should actually be used since it’s the two top guys in the WBC and it wasn’t even close against the guy weighing 270 and the guy where they are cutting the weight class off. No other year matters but this one we’re not comparing past eras ,the current one is where where at now . Not sure how one creates an argument against the weight class ,that was an actual title fight you don’t need more proof then that one and Wilder hits significantly harder then Fury per punch .

**Bigblackted44** · 10-26-2020, 09:44 PM

You can be under 225 and fight at heavyweight see Roy Jones and recently Shawndell Winters

**johnbook** · 10-26-2020, 10:07 PM

If it were 250 maybe. But not 225.

**Zelda** · 10-27-2020, 12:35 AM

I like the idea even I think there are too many divisions out there.

However, its the lower divisions that need to be streamlined. YOu have a goddam division every 2-3 kgs which is insane, and you expect HW to fight people 20-30 kg heavier. There should be some reasonable distribution in lower weight classes.

**Toffee** · 10-27-2020, 01:28 AM

I don't disagree with the principle that the weight gaps are too big, but it just feels like it will devalue both categories. You know those 200-225 guys are big enough to fight at the top weight, yet they might not.

Do you end up in a time when there are no credible 230+ (naturally) heavyweights and we get a Valuev type champion who is in the, in theory, blue riband division but has no credibility?

Or is this basically the WBC creating a Wilder division?

**SN!PER** · 10-27-2020, 01:32 AM

Now Sulaiman just needs to create a 300+ division for juicers (no testing required) and Big Baby Miller can make a comeback.

**Toffee** · 10-27-2020, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by Nobody+1

The WBC is splitting the heavyweight division by drawing a line at fighters who are above 200lbs to 225lbs and 225 and higher as a sort of super heavyweight division.

Is this a good idea? We have had plenty of fighters who have shown they can beat bigger people before:

Mike Tyson vs. (many opponents)

David haye vs valuev

Micheal Moorer vs (that 6’10 guy)

Evander Holyfield vs Bowe and valuev

Rocky Marciano vs (many opponents)

Should this division be created? And also is this just because of corruption ie. Sanctioning fees?

Just read a report that it will actually reduce the Cruiserweight limit to 190 and this new division will be 190-224. Then Heavyweight above that.

So no Super Heavyweight. It will be the new division that gets a name. Super Cruiserweight? Doesn't feel right for 224 pound guys.

**MaksBox** · 10-27-2020, 01:46 AM

Is this a new division for Usyk?

He will get crushed by AJ or Fury (if they connect, when they connect), however if you remove guys above that, Usyk can box with the best of them.

Povetkin would also be prime in this category.

**Armchairhero** · 10-27-2020, 02:58 AM

It should go middle 12st, light heavy 13st, cruiser 15st max, heavy 15st and above

I’d have all the lower weights with no jnr or super classes, you can go to the toilet and weigh a few lbs less

1st = 14lbs, 12st = 168 , 15st = 210.

WBC Super Heavy weight