For anybody ****** enough to question Loma’s resume?

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #51
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    loma was matched because he asked for it....yes he probably could have taken easier touches and a lighter slate to start...he chose it.....which should let a light bulb go off in your head "maybe loma didnt think he needed the pro experience and could beat champs or veterans easily very early"....common sense and logic says loma didnt think he needed the pro experience since it was all his choice
    Whether he asked for it or not is completely irrelevant.

    He still consistently fought top level opposition with no PRO EXPERIENCE. Something no other fighter in history has done at the same level Loma did.

    You obviously can’t comprehend that point, so we’re done here...

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      #52
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      Whether he asked for it or not is completely irrelevant.

      He still consistently fought top level opposition with no PRO EXPERIENCE. Something no other fighter in history has done at the same level Loma did.

      You obviously can’t comprehend that point, so we’re done here...
      Not true. He had 6 quasi pro fights as part of the WIBA (or something like that) that weren't counted against his record. These were fights without headgear, against pros, with a 10 point must system.

      This is the kind of thing you need to point out. The way you frame this is to make it seem like Loma is a young fighter that just decided to jump up to top comp from the go without ever fighting.

      In reality, he had the equivalent of 6 pro fights before his official debut at 25 years old.

      Edit: I just don’t get why guys can’t be honest. Being honest doesn’t make Loma any less of a talent.
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 11-03-2020, 04:13 PM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by alexnation
        That's your opinion, not going to get into that.



        Which part did Teo outbox him in? He threw a lot of punches but considering his resume as a power puncher he barely did any damage.



        Took so much out of him? In the 12th round he decided to go head to head because he knew he made a wrong decision to give away the first half of the fight. I don't see where he almost got stopped. He gave Teo a nasty cut in the 12th. so it basically took Loma 5 rounds to open him up but he decided not to box in the first 6 rounds.



        As far as I remember, Crolla was a title defence due to a lack of willing opponents. Pedaza was a WBO title fight. Both Davis and Haney are all talk and now walk. Loma himself stated numerous times that he would even take a pay cut to fight Tank, and Tankhad all the time in the world to take the fight but he chose to eat donuts and then weight bully Santa Cruz.


        Anyway, I agree to disagree
        come on dude. Loma lost clearly and fairly. Give Teo his credit. I would ask that you look at Loma's face regarding damage. Also, the body attack was long and sustained. Those shots count as well.

        He gave Teo the cut with a headbutt dude. No way you didn't see that.

        Loma gave up the belt rather than fight Haney. You can't put that on Haney.

        If you are ok with Loma avoiding Haney then its incredibly hypocritical to find fault with Tank for not fighting Loma. The world doesn't revolve around what Loma wants. He makes people wait and he is made to wait.

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          #54
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Not true. He had 6 quasi pro fights as part of the WIBA (or something like that) that weren't counted against his record. These were fights without headgear, against pros, with a 10 point must system.

          This is the kind of thing you need to point out. The way you frame this is to make it seem like Loma is a young fighter that just decided to jump up to top comp from the go without ever fighting.

          In reality, he had the equivalent of 6 pro fights before his official debut at 25 years old.
          The WSB is an AIBA tournament/league.

          AIBA- AMATEUR International Boxing Association.

          They are hybrid type rules that allow AMATEUR boxers to compete professionally but they still retain their AMATEUR status.

          They were not professional fights so just stop with the BS...

          Loma has had 16 professional fights, 15 of them have been world title fights. It’s unprecedented in boxing history, just deal with it...

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            #55
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            come on dude. Loma lost clearly and fairly. Give Teo his credit. I would ask that you look at Loma's face regarding damage. Also, the body attack was long and sustained. Those shots count as well.

            He gave Teo the cut with a headbutt dude. No way you didn't see that.

            Loma gave up the belt rather than fight Haney. You can't put that on Haney.

            If you are ok with Loma avoiding Haney then its incredibly hypocritical to find fault with Tank for not fighting Loma. The world doesn't revolve around what Loma wants. He makes people wait and he is made to wait.
            No, I don't argue that he won. Like I said, he chose the wrong strategy and he lost fair and square. One could probably make a case for a draw but Teo did deserve to win because he put in the work and Loma did not. What I disagree with is that Teo BEAT him. Semantics, but you know what I mean

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            • TheBoxGod
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              #56
              not 16 fights, more like 21 pro fights you gotta count those wbbss pro bouts or whatever.

              But lomachenko is a decent fighter and accomplished great things for himself, however his not as great as alot try to rank him and he also isnt as bad as alot of people try to dismiss him as.

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                #57
                Originally posted by TheBoxGod
                not 16 fights, more like 21 pro fights you gotta count those wbbss pro bouts or whatever.

                But lomachenko is a decent fighter and accomplished great things for himself, however his not as great as alot try to rank him and he also isnt as bad as alot of people try to dismiss him as.
                They ain’t professional fights man.

                They box for 5 rounds wearing amateur style 12 oz gloves.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                  They ain’t professional fights man.

                  They box for 5 rounds wearing amateur style 12 oz gloves.
                  was under professional rules, and that 1 more round than usual 4 rounders pros do when they start out.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by TheBoxGod
                    was under professional rules, and that 1 more round than usual 4 rounders pros do when they start out.
                    It wasn’t strictly under professional rules. As I said they aren’t even using pro gloves.

                    I used to regularly watch the WSB it was always very amateurish, was far more about point scoring.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                      It wasn’t strictly under professional rules. As I said they aren’t even using pro gloves.

                      I used to regularly watch the WSB it was always very amateurish, was far more about point scoring.
                      but they used the 10 point must system.

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