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  • Boxing-1013
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    #61
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    I have them 1-1 but both were close either way fights so I won’t argue with either decision.

    But regardless if you had him winning both they were still close fights and far from “unstoppable”

    Which has been the same story with the other two top fighters he’s faced in Jacobs and Derevenchko.

    You could argue he lost to all 3.

    Personally I had him beating Canelo and losing to Jacobs and Derevenchko but can’t argue with any of the decisions.
    Lol anyone who has him 1-3 in those 4 fights, I mean they should just give up scoring fights. It isn't for them.

    And seems like most people say GGG won both those fights vs Canelo, who was in his prime, and GGG in mid 30s/nearing 40. And Canelo is pfp number 1 for many.

    That alone should give GGG major props. The knots people tie themselves in to slight GGG...just bizarre.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Boxing-1013
      Competitive, yes. Did they only have one winner, yes. Can't get to 6 rounds for Canelo or Jacobs in those 3 unless you are giving them rounds they weren't in. When you outland a guy by about 50 punches, and in about 9 of the rounds (as GGG more or less did in those 3 fights), I mean the stats back up the story that were competitive but not close as far as scoring.

      To put it this way, if GGG fought those guys' fights, and they fought his in those fights, no one who is saying they were close fights would be saying that now. They would be saying GGG got dominated and lost all 3. Which didn't happen, they were competitive. But the point is that a lot of people see red when they see GGG, they don't analyze his fights well at all.
      Man your score whacked!!!! Fkn ggg did NOT win every fkn round ******.

      This IDIOT looks at compubox and bam there is his winner

      Dude a fkn clown that would get knocked out at a bar with his ****** scores

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        #63
        Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
        ... is when he faces bums. I think he should have 5 losses: Two to Canelo, Derevyanchenko, Jacobs, and Lemieux by DQ. He couldn't beat those B/C+ fighters. Loma looks like he went that way too.
        Bro scoring fights is not for you....

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          #64
          Originally posted by joseph5620
          That's your opinion. It's not mine.
          We all know what your agenda is 'Joseph'

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            #65
            Originally posted by Al Broker
            I never understood why GGG fans actually try to justify his performance as a robbery. Moretti and Trella had it close. Too bad Moretti hadn't scored it 114-114. the GGG girls wouldn't have brought up Byrd since it wouldn't have mattered. I thought Moretti was being generous and GGG never won wide considering Canelo's tactics will be studied for generations from that fight!
            GGG out threw & landed Canelo in every round but one in the first fight. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows GGG won.

            Poor argument.

            Canelo lost to past prime GGG. Period

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              #66
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat
              GGG out threw & landed Canelo in every round but one in the first fight. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows GGG won.

              Poor argument.

              Canelo lost to past prime GGG. Period
              Nah. GGG just flicked 3:1 jabs missing. You're not going to hurt Canelo by doing that. GGG somehow forgot how to throw punches to the body in that fight, and it was nice seeing Canelo's defense having GGG miss a lot. It's a good thing Canelo didn't just flick jabs. It's not in his character. He tried to time his best shots while GGG did the same boring strikes on a loop just trying to look busy.

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                #67
                Originally posted by buddyr
                What would u call that against Derevchenko?
                That was definitely a close fight, but how can you say robbery, when I remember you in the thread at the time, specifically saying that it was a close fight and you can't be mad that the judges gave it to GGG?

                Originally posted by buddyr
                Camelot best day azz the 2nd time and it really wasn’t as close as the first. He beat him all around the ring. LOL
                Bro you should give up scoring fights. It ain't your thing.

                Originally posted by just the facts
                I think he's a great fighter but he never convincingly beat a quality fighter. Not one. Ducking a Ward fight doesn't help his legacy either.
                I'll never understand the logic of people who watch Ward fight Bika, Barrera, or Froch (or the Kovalev fights if we really want to go there), and say 'those were great, clear wins for Ward' when in reality they were extremely competitive, not much in them fights. Same for some people with Loma and his Campbell and Linares fights, saying he dominated those when they were very competitive.

                But then those people say GGG and Canelo 1 was close. Like if that was close, then every fight ever that goes 12 rounds was close. He beat Canelo as convincingly there as Floyd did vs Pac-man. 8-4 all day, and any score much different than that is off.

                As for 'ducking' Ward, that has been debunked so no need to get into all that.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Al Broker
                  Nah. GGG just flicked 3:1 jabs missing. You're not going to hurt Canelo by doing that. GGG somehow forgot how to throw punches to the body in that fight, and it was nice seeing Canelo's defense having GGG miss a lot. It's a good thing Canelo didn't just flick jabs. It's not in his character. He tried to time his best shots while GGG did the same boring strikes on a loop just trying to look busy.
                  Ah the old 'I'm going to change around my scoring criteria, because if I don't, the guy I like has no chance of winning' defense. Seen often in Canelo fights.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702
                    Man your score whacked!!!! Fkn ggg did NOT win every fkn round ******.

                    This IDIOT looks at compubox and bam there is his winner

                    Dude a fkn clown that would get knocked out at a bar with his ****** scores
                    I don't need compubox to tell me that GGG outlanded Canelo in almost every round. I saw that with my own eyes.

                    Can you find me one round in either fight where Canelo landed 2 or more punches than GGG in the round?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Boxing-1013
                      Ah the old 'I'm going to change around my scoring criteria, because if I don't, the guy I like has no chance of winning' defense. Seen often in Canelo fights.
                      There's no narrative by industry for any specific techniques or moments where GGG was looking ''great'' against Canelo. Find a boxer or trainer that was in awe. Most people say they didn't mind the Draw or it went either way. And about scoring, again, it was close, hence Moretti and Trella. GGG's compubox were horrid.

                      It's normal for GGG fans to get disgruntled because they interpret Canelo fans accepting the Draw per majority vote as a ''win'' which is wasnt for neither of them. That's the nature of 3 judges. Canelo didn't win the fight nor did GGG. I don't even mind if GGG had won. the nature of the fight said by everyone is that it was ''close.'' GGG will always be remembered to have underachieved in that fight by not throwing signature punches he was known for. Instead he just fought behind the jab while missing more than what was landed.

                      I mean the thread title is ironic...it's as if GGG was Mike Tyson against Canelo...

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