Comments Thread For: Canelo's Coach Reacts To Facing Spence, Likes Charlo For 2021

[Silver Spear]

In other words they’re fully expecting the lawsuit to get settled out of court. Hopefully they do and put their Mexican bálls on and choose the toughest fight.

And what toughest fight would that be?

[Bronx2245]

Amateur and Olympic is not synonymous. You can be an elite amateur, but it doesn't mean you can make the Olympic team. As an Olympian along with Gold sponsorships, endorsements, promoters come along to prioritize in signing you...for a fighter that means money. Most boxing fans don't understand meritocracy in the sport, hence, it's a business.

Don't over complicate things! Did Loma wear headgear? Did Loma fight 3 rounds? Did Joshua wear headgear? Did Joshua fight 3 rounds? That's amateur boxing! That's not professional boxing! That didn't prepare Loma for Salido! That didn't prepare Joshua for Ruiz! That didn't prepare Sugar Ray Leonard for Roberto Duran! Not the same level!

No one cares about Tyson's amateur career! No one cares about Floyd's amateur career! No one cares about Manny's amateur career! No one cares about Canelo's amateur career! Loma, supposedly P4P#1, lost to a 23 yr. old kid with 15 professional fights! That's just wack, on a historical level!

[Silver Spear]

Smith? The guy who lost to that Rhyder dude?

That Smith?

Old washed up Kovalev is more valuable than Andrade?

This can't be anything other than racism.

Andrade is definitely a much much better opponent than either of those guys, and the Andrade vs Canelo fight would DEFINITELY have been a better sell GTFOH!

I wonder if 20 years ago you would have rushed to use the racism card or did you just learn that in the last 10 years? What exactly is racist in his comment? How many black boxers has Canelo already faced? You think because he does not face another that it is racist?

Andrade is not a bigger name than any of the other true potential match-ups for Canelo. He does not bring the money which is what promoters will want. In the ring value and out of the ring value are not the same thing. Andrade's out of the ring value is among the lowest for a Canelo fight.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Don't over complicate things! Did Loma wear headgear? Did Loma fight 3 rounds? Did Joshua wear headgear? Did Joshua fight 3 rounds? That's amateur boxing! That's not professional boxing! That didn't prepare Loma for Salido! That didn't prepare Joshua for Ruiz! That didn't prepare Sugar Ray Leonard for Roberto Duran! Not the same level!

No one cares about Tyson's amateur career! No one cares about Floyd's amateur career! No one cares about Manny's amateur career! No one cares about Canelo's amateur career! Loma, supposedly P4P#1, lost to a 23 yr. old kid with 15 professional fights! That's just wack, on a historical level!

lol. YOu're mentioning ''don't over complicate things'' yet you're so confused with your posts I had to retrace our original conversation and behold it's you saying Lopez's win with Loma and Commey is bigger than anything Usyk has achieved. I had already clearly responded to that initially in that Usyk won Gold and was Undisputed. You can TRY and hype Lopez all you want but Loma's 0 had already been taken away. Usyk is still intact, so no, perhaps a win for Lopez beating Haney to technically win the WBC belt then he can top Usyk.

And you saying ''no one cares'' is comical. Again, when you win medals at the Olympics it opens doors for proper signings and earnings in the pros. the conversation isn't about skill from the ams vs the pros. It's about you saying Lopez's win is bigger than Usyk.

[Silver Spear]

Amateur and Olympic is not synonymous. You can be an elite amateur, but it doesn't mean you can make the Olympic team. As an Olympian along with Gold sponsorships, endorsements, promoters come along to prioritize in signing you...for a fighter that means money. Most boxing fans don't understand meritocracy in the sport, hence, it's a business.

My friend was the number 1 setter in the nation for men' volleyball but he did not go to the Olympic team why? Politics. Him nor his friends were selected because of the Coach and his bias etc. Suffice it to say the team that was chosen did not do as well as they could.

Bottom line in the Olympics the best rarely ever make the cut. Like you said it is a business and what athlete they can promote and make money off of easier.

[Doubledagger]

I wonder if 20 years ago you would have rushed to use the racism card or did you just learn that in the last 10 years? What exactly is racist in his comment? How many black boxers has Canelo already faced? You think because he does not face another that it is racist?

Andrade is not a bigger name than any of the other true potential match-ups for Canelo. He does not bring the money which is what promoters will want. In the ring value and out of the ring value are not the same thing. Andrade's out of the ring value is among the lowest for a Canelo fight.

And Kovalev brings money?

Gtfoh!

Kovalev fought Ward in his biggest fight of his career and in his prime and wasn’t selling well.

He all of a sudden became a cash cow at his old and past prime best after getting KO’d multiple times?

Ridiculous!!!

Its obviously a race isssue because in every division lame excuses like this are being made to avoid elite, undefeated black black fighters.

As a boxing fan people should want the best to fight the best.

Jacobs, Fielding, Khan, Chavez junior, Liam Smith, and old washed up Kovalev who went further and took a dive?

Thats not the best fighting the best.

Andrade is being blatantly ducked at middleweight by all these clowns and there is ABSOLUTELY no justification for it.

Unifications sell themslves. Canelo vs Andrade or Andrade vs any of those guys at middleweight sells. Its a big fight on its own.

As a fan of boxing, no one should be standing for this shieet and certainly nk true fan of the sport would justify ducking.

You fanboys and racist ****s posing as fans of the sport make me sick.

**** Andrade too. I aint forget all the ducking he did at 154lbs and I aint forget that he ducked Derevyanchenko when he was undefeated either.

**** all these duckers, and **** all you fake racist fanboys!!!

Yawl the reason this sport is in the gutter.

[Bronx2245]

lol. YOu're mentioning ''don't over complicate things'' yet you're so confused with your posts I had to retrace our original conversation and behold it's you saying Lopez's win with Loma and Commey is bigger than anything Usyk has achieved. I had already clearly responded to that initially in that Usyk won Gold and was Undisputed. You can TRY and hype Lopez all you want but Loma's 0 had already been taken away. Usyk is still intact, so no, perhaps a win for Lopez beating Haney to technically win the WBC belt then he can top Usyk.

And you saying ''no one cares'' is comical. Again, when you win medals at the Olympics it opens doors for proper signings and earnings in the pros. the conversation isn't about skill from the ams vs the pros. It's about you saying Lopez's win is bigger than Usyk.

Lopez just beat the P4P#1 fighter in the sport @ 23 years of age! That's not "hype!" That's like Canelo beating Mayweather! Usyk, at age 33, has 17 fights, and has not fought anyone on the P4P list! He earned a lot of "belts" though! Lol! Until he beats Fury, Joshua, or Wilder, he's all "hype!"

[Silver Spear]

And Kovalev brings money?

Gtfoh!

Kovalev fought Ward in his biggest fight of his career and in his prime and wasn’t selling well.

He all of a sudden became a cash cow at his old and past prime best after getting KO’d multiple times?

Ridiculous!!!

Its obviously a race isssue because in every division lame excuses like this are being made to avoid elite, undefeated black black fighters.

As a boxing fan people should want the best to fight the best.

Jacobs, Fielding, Khan, Chavez junior, Liam Smith, and old washed up Kovalev who went further and took a dive?

Thats not the best fighting the best.

Andrade is being blatantly ducked at middleweight by all these clowns and there is ABSOLUTELY no justification for it.

Unifications sell themslves. Canelo vs Andrade or Andrade vs any of those guys at middleweight sells. Its a big fight on its own.

As a fan of boxing, no one should be standing for this shieet and certainly nk true fan of the sport would justify ducking.

You fanboys and racist ****s posing as fans of the sport make me sick.

**** Andrade too. I aint forget all the ducking he did at 154lbs and I aint forget that he ducked Derevyanchenko when he was undefeated either.

**** all these duckers, and **** all you fake racist fanboys!!!

Yawl the reason this sport is in the gutter.

What other division are these undefeated elite black fighters being avoided?

Andrade has no following. Neither do the Charlo's. The Charlo's had to stack their PPV card and even then it did not sell that well. Crawford did as well as both of the brothers on a stacked card.

So you are telling me that Mayweather is the exception? Mosely is the exception? Hopkins is the exception? Joshua is the exception? Wilder is the exception?

The fact that some of the highest paid fighters are black proves you are an idiot and full of it. Stop crying and hiding behind the racism tag.

Any true fan of the sport wants to see the best fight the best obviously. Just like any true fan of the sport understand that this is a business and in business you are always looking to make the most amount of profit.

[Doubledagger]

What other division are these undefeated elite black fighters being avoided?

Andrade has no following. Neither do the Charlo's. The Charlo's had to stack their PPV card and even then it did not sell that well. Crawford did as well as both of the brothers on a stacked card.

So you are telling me that Mayweather is the exception? Mosely is the exception? Hopkins is the exception? Joshua is the exception? Wilder is the exception?

The fact that some of the highest paid fighters are black proves you are an idiot and full of it. Stop crying and hiding behind the racism tag.

Any true fan of the sport wants to see the best fight the best obviously. Just like any true fan of the sport understand that this is a business and in business you are always looking to make the most amount of profit.

Stop tip toing. Does Canelo vs Old and washed up Kovalev sell?

Is Kovalev all of a sudden a money fight?

Liam Smith?

Rocky Fielding.

Are those selling fights?

Does Rocky Fielding sell more than Andrade?

Does old washed up Kovalev sell more than an Andrade fight?

Was Jacobs a cash cow?

And for your information Mosley was not a cash cow either. He couldnt put seats on chairs but when he fought Oscar, Floyd, Manny, and all thoae top guys his fights sold a lot because the best was fighting the best.

GGG couldn't sell either. He was no cash cow in fact #97k on his first ppv.

But when he fough Canelo the fight went over a million.

So stfu with your lame excuses. I already proven that Canelo fought guys with no fanbase before and the fights sold. Jacobs and GGG were no cash cows, but the fights sold because it was the best against the best.

Stop justifying this unjustifiable nonsense. Stop being a bloody racist fanboy **** and be a boxing fan for once.

[Thuglife Nelo]

The fact that some of the highest paid fighters are black proves you are an idiot and full of it. Stop crying and hiding behind the racism tag.

I already proven that Canelo fought guys with no fanbase before and the fights sold. Jacobs and GGG were no cash cows, but the fights sold because it was the best against the best.

Stop justifying this unjustifiable nonsense. Stop being a bloody racist fanboy **** and be a boxing fan for once.

I don't understand why you guys are bringing up racism. I don't understand why Canelo haters selectively cherry pick names. We could do that for every fighter and say ''why did he choose.'' Victor Ortiz was broken down by Maidana long ago. Such characteristics for not wanting any more is a gem for other elite fighters to choose from. Of course Floyd would want a chance at Ortiz's WBC. lol Oscar was going to make a nice penny from that fight and continued promotional relations with Floyd. Why did Floyd ''choose'' Berto? I use ''choose'' and not ''Cherry pick'' to see if you any sensitivity matters. Berto had no following. In fact Khan did. Floyd asked his fans whom he wanted to fight next and that he would do it... when Khan won most of the votes Floyd dishonored his promise to the fans. Khan had a huge following. Or why didn't Floyd unify 147 Undisputed with Brook? Why Why Why?

At least Canelo been fighting northbound. Most fighter prefer to DRAIN at the weights they're campaigning. Canelo didn't drain for Fielding or Kovalev.

Nobody can cry about the Kovalev fight. Kovalev fans or any fans of the LHW division were still expecting unifications with Beterbiev or Bivol. That's what they were clamoring about when Kovalev beat Yarde and Eleider. But when Canelo stopped that traction all of a sudden the LHW division was changed.. lol.

Canelo is P4P #1 for good reason. Doing Undisputed with Indongo has no weight of difficulty like GGG, Kovalev or Jacobs. There are levels to this game.