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  • Doubledagger
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    #41
    Originally posted by Al Broker
    No, Canelo criticized Andrade's style. The context was 168-175 as options for Canelo Alvarez vs Matchroom fighters. Andrade means nothing at 160 if Canelo already beat GGG for P4P. Therefore, when Canelo is given options by GBP vs Matchroom: Smith, BJS, or Main Events+Matchroom why would Canelo look at Andrade if DAZN didn't even approve it to begin with? We also learned per Coppinger that DAZN never felt Andrade was a premier fight, so Matchroom wasted DAZN+GBP time for marketing any possibility for Undisputed. Smith or BJS's belt or Kovalev are more lucrative to Canelo's resume than Andrade's Middleweight title.

    I mean...you SHOULD...in theory... know this.
    Smith? The guy who lost to that Rhyder dude?

    That Smith?

    Old washed up Kovalev is more valuable than Andrade?

    This can't be anything other than racism.

    Andrade is definitely a much much better opponent than either of those guys, and the Andrade vs Canelo fight would DEFINITELY have been a better sell GTFOH!

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    • bikeboatski
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      #42
      Spence too small for Canelo

      Jermall vs Canelo is the fight that long time fans and boxing insiders want to see! Canelo vs Andrade, Callum Smith or Plant would also be good....also Canelo vs Zurdo Ramirez is great fight. And C Smith did not lose to Ryder.
      Last edited by bikeboatski; 10-25-2020, 03:20 PM.

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      • Doubledagger
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        #43
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        However the "move up" match ups are bigger fights too! Well worth the risk!
        They're not bigger fights. Undisputed is a big deal. There have only been two undisputed in the last decade, Crawford and Usyk. Jermell getting into an undisputed fight would be bigger than him fighting Andrade. Its a big achievement.

        I don't count Lopez because his undisputed has an asterisk with that franchise garbage. I'll acknowledge him as undisputed if he cleans that out by beating Haney.

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        • Mario g
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          #44
          Cleneros a red headed fraud

          I think its all smoke and mirrors. Clenero will give it his all and fight a Rocky fielding type w no rehydration clause. Their carefully minuvering Clenero cause hes not that good.
          The Kovalev fight was scripted. If it wasn't Kovalev would've beat that red azz.

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          • Bronx2245
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            #45
            Originally posted by Doubledagger
            Its true that Andrade swerved Jermell, TWICE.

            But for some reason he ain't scared of Jermall at all, or at least he doesn't appear to be. Truth is though, Jermall has also failed to call out Andrade's bluff at all, probably because he also doesn't want that smoke.

            Let's face it, that slick, cagey southpaw style is Jermall's kryptonite. Just look at how difficult it was for him against Austin Trout and Koborov. Unless he could hurt and drop Andrade with every clean punch hw lands, he'd probably get outboxed and lose by a landslide.

            I think Jermall and his team know this, and so does Andrade and his team. That's why they won't fight Mell but are all for fighting Mall.

            I remember there was an interview with Trout and the Charlo bros. They asked Trout, since he was one of the few people, if not the only one who fought both brothers at the elite leve, who he thought was the tougher brother.

            He said he would prefer to fight Mall then Mell.

            He said Mell's style was tougher and unpredictable, which made it hard to time him and anticipate what he'll do next. He also said that Mell was faster and more explosive.

            He said that even though Mall was much stronger and hits harder, but that his style was less tricky and easier to deal with.

            So maybe Andrade and team see the same thing, and maybe Mall knows this as well.

            Still, ducking is ducking. As fans, we don't care what style gives you fits, we want to see the best fights.

            Charlo (Mall) better stop ducking Andrade.

            GGG, Canelo, and Saunders better stop ducking Andrade.

            And if Mell moves up to 160 or calls out Andrade, he better stop ducking.

            It's totally unacceptable.
            For Jermall, Caleb Plant is worth the risk, Andrade is not! For Jermell, Andrade is worth the risk, Erickson Lubin, Lara, and Castano, are not!

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            • Bronx2245
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              #46
              Originally posted by Doubledagger
              They're not bigger fights. Undisputed is a big deal. There have only been two undisputed in the last decade, Crawford and Usyk. Jermell getting into an undisputed fight would be bigger than him fighting Andrade. Its a big achievement.

              I don't count Lopez because his undisputed has an asterisk with that franchise garbage. I'll acknowledge him as undisputed if he cleans that out by beating Haney.
              Belts are not as important as the opponent you beat for the belts! Andrade is a bigger win than Lubin (Mandatory) Lara, Madrimov, Castano, or Texieira! To me Danny Garcia had a better run at 140 than Terence Crawford because of the level of opponents! Commey and Lomachenko are better wins for Lopez than anything Usyk has ever done in his career!

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #47
                Originally posted by Doubledagger
                Smith? The guy who lost to that Rhyder dude?

                That Smith?

                Old washed up Kovalev is more valuable than Andrade?

                This can't be anything other than racism.

                Andrade is definitely a much much better opponent than either of those guys, and the Andrade vs Canelo fight would DEFINITELY have been a better sell GTFOH!
                Don’t get sensitive. Kovalev would KO Andrade, but Andrade is safe at 160. . Andrade isn’t on a path for Undisputed nor has he sold that narrative verbally. Therefore, if he really wanted to be a 3 Weight Champion he would’ve already moved up to 168 to be BJS’s mando by now, the guy who fled from him at 160 and got stripped the WBO. Why hasn’t Andrade ranked at 168 by now? Instead Canelo is #1 on the WBO.

                Don’t waste my time with your soft theory bruh.

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  Commey and Lomachenko are better wins for Lopez than anything Usyk has ever done in his career!
                  Career includes the Olympics my son. Usyk unified all the belts with an Undefeated unified Champion. Commey won his belt off a vacant opportunity and lost it the first time against Easter...

                  Devin Haney is the WBC champion. Lopez is not Undisputed nor was the WBC a sanctioned fight

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                  • Califire209
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                    #49
                    Eddy is full of crap Alvarez has been training, the man can make 160

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Al Broker
                      No, Canelo criticized Andrade's style. The context was 168-175 as options for Canelo Alvarez vs Matchroom fighters. Andrade means nothing at 160 if Canelo already beat GGG for P4P. Therefore, when Canelo is given options by GBP vs Matchroom: Smith, BJS, or Main Events+Matchroom why would Canelo look at Andrade if DAZN didn't even approve it to begin with? We also learned per Coppinger that DAZN never felt Andrade was a premier fight, so Matchroom wasted DAZN+GBP time for marketing any possibility for Undisputed. Smith or BJS's belt or Kovalev are more lucrative to Canelo's resume than Andrade's Middleweight title.

                      I mean...you SHOULD...in theory... know this.
                      So Canelo feels it's a bad style matchup for him

                      He stiffed Jermell out of millions of dollars and a title shot.

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