Boxers would be absolutely lost the first time they experienced a kick to their legs

[BKM-]

Apart from it often doesnt go that way. Justin Gaethje is/was considered one of best strikers at LW. He never looks or threats takedowns and his striking also sucks.

How often does Yoel attempt a take a takedown, or Costa or Diaz or Conor? Not often. There are countless others.

How bout Francis Ngannou btw. This guy is arguably the second best HW and didn’t train any MMA until late 20s.

It almost always does. Yoel certainly has a massive TD threat which makes his striking more dangerous. Conor and Costa? They're great strikers. You forget where you were going with your point.

The two best strikers Gaethje has faced are Alvarez and Poirier. You know what they did to him? Look it up on wikipedia.

As far as Ngannou goes, he was a genetic freak who was very raw(spare me the "he was a boxer before mma" narrative) and a natural talent. If he had been a pure boxer for all those years instead he would have never picked up the grappling and kicking skills.

Lets face it pal there's a massive difference between boxing and real fighting aka MMA.

[Mushroom]

It almost always does. Yoel certainly has a massive TD threat which makes his striking more dangerous. Conor and Costa? They're great strikers. You forget where you were going with your point.

The two best strikers Gaethje has faced are Alvarez and Poirier. You know what they did to him? Look it up on wikipedia.

As far as Ngannou goes, he was a genetic freak who was very raw(spare me the "he was a boxer before mma" narrative) and a natural talent. If he had been a pure boxer for all those years instead he would have never picked up the grappling and kicking skills.

Lets face it pal there's a massive difference between boxing and real fighting aka MMA.

Despite Yoels wrestling background he doesn't shoot takedowns because a. He has poor ground control b. it's fatiguing. Costa was not scared about a takedown in their fight.

Conor and Costa are good strikers in MMA but they still suck.

It took Francis very little time from starting MMA training to becoming a top contender. He also notoriously neglects his ground game in practice. Most top boxers could do the same

MMA isn't real fighting and it hasn't been for a long time

[Thunderstruck]

Whenever an MMA fighter vs Boxer fight is brought up, the argument from boxing supporters is the superior punching skills of the boxer would negate the other skills of the MMA fighter.

The truth is MMA fighters know how to take a punch, they do it often and on the receiving end of 4oz gloves so a closer approximation to a bare fist. What no boxer is used to is a swift kick to the legs which can be debilitating if you haven't spent a significant time condition your legs.

In a street fight between the the two a kick to the boxers legs would probably immediately send them to the ground.

You sound like an idiot who probably hasn’t even seen a violent vicious street fight let alone be in one.

[BKM-]

Despite Yoels wrestling background he doesn't shoot takedowns because a. He has poor ground control b. it's fatiguing. Costa was not scared about a takedown in their fight.

Conor and Costa are good strikers in MMA but they still suck.

It took Francis very little time from starting MMA training to becoming a top contender. He also notoriously neglects his ground game in practice. Most top boxers could do the same

MMA isn't real fighting and it hasn't been for a long time

You are factually wrong. Romero shoots for takedowns, gets them one anyone and all of his opponents are aware of it. He completely ragdolled Weidman who is a high level MMA wrestler. You have no point about Romero.

"But they still suck". Whatever you say boxing keyboard warrior.

Francis Ngannou huh, and what happened when he faced a real well rounded fighter like Stipe? He got dominated 50-45. He's lucky that he came around after all the great heavyweights before him are washed up now. JDS, Cain, Werdum, DC, Fedor, TRT Bigfoot, ALL would have beaten him.

You don't know what you're talking about. Stick to your gentleman's agreement punching sport. The most limited full contact combat sport of all, but the most corrupt and watered down for sure.

[Marchegiano]

Learn some ****ing history

I'm tired of this debate. It's ******. It's ****** because we already have a hundred years of history covering it. Yer ****ing wrong. I understand the logic, my ass woulda have thought the same, but, education is a mother ****er.

Look **** up, ****.

How did boxing become a sport all about punching? **** **** if I know but tell ya what boxers can't handle no leg kick no sir.

ffs.

[Get em up]

Whenever an MMA fighter vs Boxer fight is brought up, the argument from boxing supporters is the superior punching skills of the boxer would negate the other skills of the MMA fighter.

The truth is MMA fighters know how to take a punch, they do it often and on the receiving end of 4oz gloves so a closer approximation to a bare fist. What no boxer is used to is a swift kick to the legs which can be debilitating if you haven't spent a significant time condition your legs.

In a street fight between the the two a kick to the boxers legs would probably immediately send them to the ground.

I've had alot of street fights and in my youth my fair share of amateur boxing matches. Me personally I'd much rather be hit bare knuckle than with a boxing glove. It's the difference in being hit with a rock and a basketball. The rock strings and likely to bring blood, the basketball THUDS your brain and more likely to ruin your weekend.

I'd do some research before making such comments in the future.

[Luilun]

I boxed 5 years as a kid than I took Kick boxing for a year as an adult and once you learn how to check Kicks they are easy to beat because their punching game $ucks . I stop the kick boxing because I had to go to work at the BASE jumping and climbing on tanks and it ****** going to work with sore legs the instructor would have us kicking each other’s legs so we get use to leg kicks . I was like F this

[tritium_arma]

Would it be easier for a top MMA guy to become boxing champ or a top boxing guy become MMA champ?

[sentax]

Would it be easier for a top MMA guy to become boxing champ or a top boxing guy become MMA champ?

That's a good question. For reference we've seen the top MMA guy Conor take TBE Floyd Mayweather to 10 rounds.

The top boxing guy James Toney got submitted in about 30 seconds when he tried MMA.

[deowal]

MMA fighters are barroom brawling bums who fight for peanuts.