Roman Gonzalez is still a p4p fighter

[dan_cov]

You mean Walters? Rigo? Rigo was on all those lists and Walters did not have a deeper resume than Inoue. By the time Frampton beat him I think it was accepted that Donaire was not much of a featherweight.

Donaire is a better fighter than Cuadras IMO. Now or prime or whatever.

I haven't seen Choc's fight from last night but from everything else in recent years he has looked in decline. Not shot, but showing his age. Resume is more important than eye test but how far back into Pac's career are you going? He's not the same fighter he was 10 years ago so I wouldn't factor those wins in.

What's your top 10 look like?

I was referring to Carl Frampton & Magdaleno but Walters is another.
Walters planked Donaire, Inoue went life and death with a 37yr old version who has been deemed shot for years & arguably wasn't the same since Rigo schooled him.
Furthermore Inoue was being heralded as a top p4p before he'd even fought him

Any point in recent times really. Sure he's past his best and taken a few Ls but his wins over Bradley, Thurman & the likes are way better what most of these guys have on their resumes.
Beating an undefeated Thurman aged 40 sure impresses me a lot more than beating Donaire in the back end of 2019.

[dan_cov]

To be honest, Estrada and Ancajas both beat him.

Probably both 50/50s really though might favour Ancajas based on youth.

Ehhh. I dont think so. He looks kinda diminished. And with his preferred style of boxing and his weight class, thats typically not a good thing..

He is diminished but he's still showing he's got plenty still in the tank looking great beating a decent, undefeated world champion and defending his title against a solid young contender.

[boliodogs]

I think every boxing fan has a right to their own personal pfp top 10 best list arranged in any order they want. So put him up as high as you want.There are many excellent boxers fighting now and he comes up a bit short to make my top ten pfp best list. He might be number 12 nea there for me. I had to make room for Lopez and Loma is still in the lower top 10 for me.

[j0zef]

Oh man.. it sucks saying it, but he's not. Small guys lose their quickness and reflexes much earlier than bigger fighters. Breadman made a point that Roman was slowing down back in ~2015/2016, forget which year. The first war against Rungvisai shaved off 2 years from his career, dude took a beating (including the cut in the 1st round). He got KTFO in the rematch. Right now, he's hanging on by leveraging superior technique against fighters not in his league. He loses to any other elite fighter now.

We should get a rematch because Estrada deserves it - it's basically the only black mark on his record; however I'd take the slightly younger but much fresher Estrada in that one.

[Eff Pandas]

Roman is clearly not a p4p level guy anymore.

He's lost the last 2 fights he had vs a tip top guy & since those fights he's had 4 bouts & only 1 of those guys could be described as a top ten-ish guy. He needs a longer undefeated run vs top ten guys or he needs a top tip guy caliber W before he enters the p4p discussion again.

[Citizen Koba]

Love me some Chocolatito but he's on the slide... if he can beat Juan Francisco then I might be thinking about him as one of my loose 'elite' list, but beating Yafai and Israel ain't enough.

He looked markedly less sharp and seemed to lack snap on his punches last night, and although has stamina is still incredible he ain't quite the machine he once was.