Terence Crawford scored Loma/Lopez a DRAW? SHOCKER

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  • Mike D
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    #11
    I thought Lopez deserved the nod but it was a pretty close fight.

    I think Lopez won by a couple of rounds. Had Loma just been more active and aggressive offensively in the opening rds he could've flipped the script on the entire fight. Yes I realize that that's easier said than done, and I also credit Lopez mostly for forcing Lomachenko to fight that way. Clearly Lopez was bothering him and forcing Lomachenko to be that cautious and hesitant. That said, this is boxing -- you can't just allow your opponent to steal several pretty nondescript rounds in a row. I mean it's not like Lopez was setting the world on fire in those rds. He was just simply doing more than Lomachenko...who was doing absolutely next to nothing.

    Also we can speculate all day as to how Loma would've gotten KO'd had he been more active and more aggressive early -- but that's 100% pure speculation and truth is nobody here knows that (even though some think they do).

    Lopez won a close and very competitive fight, but it was nowhere near the one sided affair that some are exaggerating it to be.
    Last edited by Mike D; 10-22-2020, 03:15 PM.

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      #12
      And not that it matters when it comes to a 12 round fight that is scored round by round, but...Lomachenko had by far the most dominant prolonged stretch of the fight. He was whooping Lopez's ass for like three straight rounds. And I mean really whooping his ass. He was putting on a clinic and using Lopez for target practice. And during that stretch...I'm no mind reader but it sure looked to me like Lopez was very concerned about what was going on at that time.

      That said, mad respect to Lopez for digging down deep in the midst of that and storming back in the 12th round. He certainly returned the favor in the 12th and was pouring it on Loma.

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      • The D3vil
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        #13
        To me, any card from 6-6 - 8-4 was okay to me.

        I had it 7-5ish

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        • TheBoxGod
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          #14
          Loma could have been knocked out cold company man Crawford would still have it a draw.

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          • Blond Beast
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            #15
            Originally posted by 4truth
            It was easy to see a draw (that was my score as well) or Lopez win but no way to see a Loma victory.
            Right. I mean sometimes very little happens in the first couple rounds. A first round can be won by throwing 8 jabs instead of the opponents 7. One guy still gets a full point. In another round the opponent can dominate, land ten more punches or more and it’s still only worth one point. Those rounds are worth the same on the cards even though the damage isn’t the same. I wish less fighters are willing to lose a first round by a jab or two. But everyone has a strategy. I’ll back you up that a draw was possible on the cards but a win impossible. Loma was the one coming on late, had López badly cut. But yeah Loma ran out of time. He started with the knob cranked all the way down to zero, never turned things up soon or high enough. That’s a testament to Lopez’s skill I’m sure keeping him in check so long. I think the scores were too wide, especially Ledermans. But I could see how someone could get frustrated with Lomas effort as the favourite and punish him extra.

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            • boliodogs
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              I thought Loma clearly won rounds 8 9 10 and 11 and Lopez won all the other rounds. Lopez out fought him in round 12 by throwing 106 punches by computer count. To score the fight a draw you need to score 2 of the first 7 rounds to Loma and I don't think he threw or landed more good punches than Lopez in any of those rounds. Apparently Crawford and Ward think he did. I think any score card that did not give Loma rounds 8 9 10 and 11 is wrong as he clearly out fought Lopez in those rounds. Just my opinion.

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                #17
                Originally posted by TheBoxGod
                Loma could have been knocked out cold company man Crawford would still have it a draw.
                Company man? Loma and Lopez fight for the same company, Top Rank. A draw is the honest opinion of Ward and Crawford and I think they are off a couple of points and 116 to 112 for Lopez is about right. But not everyone loves Lopez as much as you do.

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                  #18
                  Is this supposed to mean something?

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                    #19
                    It was a weird fight to score, easy enough in a way.

                    First 6 were all Lopez. I could see giving Loma number 2, as Lopez won the 1st one, and round 2 was competitive (with not a ton of action), with Loma ending it well.

                    5-1 Lopez minimum through 6.

                    7 was closer than the first 6, but I still think it was Lopez's.

                    8-11 were probably Loma's, but they were competitive. In a sense, they felt like Loma's because he was down and he needed them, so it was easy enough to give them to him.

                    12 seemed like Lopez's all day.

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                    • CubanGuyNYC
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 4truth
                      It was easy to see a draw (that was my score as well) or Lopez win but no way to see a Loma victory.
                      Truth.

                      Originally posted by Mike D
                      I thought Lopez deserved the nod but it was a pretty close fight.

                      I think Lopez won by a couple of rounds. Had Loma just been more active and aggressive offensively in the opening rds he could've flipped the script on the entire fight. Yes I realize that that's easier said than done, and I also credit Lopez mostly for forcing Lomachenko to fight that way. Clearly Lopez was bothering him and forcing Lomachenko to be that cautious and hesitant. That said, this is boxing -- you can't just allow your opponent to steal several pretty nondescript rounds in a row. I mean it's not like Lopez was setting the world on fire in those rds. He was just simply doing more than Lomachenko...who was doing absolutely next to nothing.

                      Lopez won a close and very competitive fight, but it was nowhere near the one sided affair that some are exaggerating it to be.
                      Yep.

                      Originally posted by Mike D
                      And not that it matters when it comes to a 12 round fight that is scored round by round, but...Lomachenko had by far the most dominant prolonged stretch of the fight. He was whooping Lopez's ass for like three straight rounds. And I mean really whooping his ass. He was putting on a clinic and using Lopez for target practice. And during that stretch...I'm no mind reader but it sure looked to me like Lopez was very concerned about what was going on at that time.

                      That said, mad respect to Lopez for digging down deep in the midst of that and storming back in the 12th round. He certainly returned the favor in the 12th and was pouring it on Loma.
                      Agreed 100%. Lopez impressed me with his rise in the 12th. I thought he was done after the way he looked in the eleventh.

                      Originally posted by The D3vil
                      To me, any card from 6-6 - 8-4 was okay to me.

                      I had it 7-5ish
                      Agreed. Lederman’s card was disgraceful, and the 117 card wasn’t much better.

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